Here it is, FINALLY. A practically flawless mechanical gun. The sister gun of the popular ICON-E, the Z series gun has all the goodies and great features, minus the electronics. Add to all of this a 2 year factory warranty and you will see why this is one of the best deals in paintball.
The 32 Degrees Icon Z is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
Icon Z with stock barrel and gravity feed hopper, with the dovetail on the back removed
-Force feed hopper (high rate of fire)
-Many upgrade parts available
-Trigger feels cheap
-Chops balls on high velocity with cheap paint
The icon Z is very dependable. When shooting with good paint you will not have any ball chops even with a gravity feed hopper. If the velocity is adjusted above tournament limit you will start getting more ball chops. The marker shoots accurately with the stock barrel but when you get ball breaks you have to clean the barrel out thoroughly, one pull through of the squeegee isn't going to help, you can expect to shoot inaccurately with a ball break in the barrel. The Icon Z is also very tough, and knocking it around will not effect the ability of the marker.
The Icon Z is a good marker to begin with. It shoots very well as is, and to upgrade it is not going to cost much. For a beginner it is perfect.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, February 12th, 2007 at 6:59 am PST
Only played with the gun a few times and i play woods ball not speed ball. The gun is accurate and can be fast. I played against two ppl with speed ball guns and took them out from about 125" every time and in four rounds only used 25 balls. Its choped twice out of about 2000 rounds.
If your a woods ball player and like to snipe this gun isnt half bad even with the stock barrel.
This gun is awesome. It shoots far and hard. If you are looking for a cheap paintball gun for around $70 this is your gun. My gun fires very straight and only chops paintball sometimes. I would definately reccomond this gun mostly for begginers, so if you are one buy this gun.
I went out to play with this marker a few days ago and it prefermed incredibly. i play conservative so im not a paint waster but a couple times i found myself shooting awfly fast on this machanical with NO chops. someone wrote"if you put an electro grip on this, itl be sweet" i thought that was retarded because you might as well buy an electro for twenty bucks more. besides, the way it is now is great. a few people complained about chops but ive experienced none. This gun is light, comfortable, speedy, powerful, and affordable. On top of great performance, theres great managability. its easy field strip and fits most marker accessories. Ive never played with the stock barrell, i use a CMI 16 incher and that takes a lot of the loudness away, some people complained about accuracy but SERIOUSLY, all my shots were about 3 to 1 inch apart from each other when i really tried. the air it uses is about average, doesnt kill air fast but its not a dream either, so you might want a 20 ounce for more play but i prefer a 12 ounce for the weight and comfort. on of my favorite things about its air usage is all the shots are consistent on accurracy and distance (and this is with cheap monster balls). Some people might look for more in a gun especially in speedball (which sucks) but its better than anything ive ever handled under 100 bucks. if your a begginer or an intermediate player looking for something long term and durable, buy this.
P.S. sorry if speedball sucks but i dont get what i need from it, wheres the hiding, the surprise, the sneaking, flanking, and dodging. maybe its just me but i hate it when the enemy knows your there and its a lame sluggfest of who shoots the most bps. wheres the tactical advantage?)
Buy it, read review, its short, and everythings there.
Marker is now set up to run LP (low pressure). I'm working on a break-beam eye installation to eliminate chops.
Any Spyder upgrade should fit, so pick your flavor and rock out.
Definitely upgrade the trigger, bolt, and barrel.
An agitated hopper is a must if you use an electronic trigger frame
easy to upgrade
Gun needs tweaking out of the box
I got a nice deal on a package that I couldn't pass up. For the Icon Z, 16oz tank, JT Axiom thermal goggles, squeegee, barrel condom, hopper, Extreme Rage tank cover, Redz 2-pod carrier, and a 200rd load of paint was $170. I'm just getting back into the sport and I couldn't afford another Autococker, but it seemed like a decent deal for what it is.
Anyway, the first time out here's what I've noticed.
First, the safety would not engage properly. No big deal, I just put a thin - roughly 1mm thick - washer between the trigger and the frame, problem solved. This will also take some of the play out of the trigger that some had complained about.
Second issue was velocity. In the chrono booth I couldn't stay below 285 (field speed limit) to save my life and even with the adjuster backed all the way out I could still trip the chrono at 360-380 for some reason. It took some tweaking and I ended up having to cut the spring - not a good idea.
Third issue was ball breaks. Lots of them. Again, I did some tweaking, but it's still not right and I need to do some research and figure this one out.
On the upside, the gun is a great platform for someone who likes tweaking things. As this gun is mechanically identical to a Spyder Xtra, there is no shortage of parts to make this one evil little marker. The first upgrades I'd recommend are a good hopper to keep the paint feeding properly, a good barrel, and a decent trigger upgrade. A feed neck is a necessity if you want the hopper to sit low to the marker.
In the past couple weeks I've pretty much torn this gun completely to it's bare parts and gone on an all out endeavor to make this gun operate more to my liking. The upgrades I added in this review are what I would recommend for anyone who wants a Spyder (or Spyder clone as the case may be) that can hang with the big dogs. I've gotten this gun to run LP, fire enough cycles/second that I can't walk the trigger fast enough to choke the feed, increased shots per tank, it's just a better gun.
I'd say buy it if you like to tinker with things and plan on upgrading. I am in no way disappointed with my purchase. Out of the box there are issues to address but nothing major and the issues at hand only give reason to do the upgrades most will do anyway. I'm giving it a 6 out of the box because it's not perfect - but it could be. With the right parts this thing could easily hang with the big dogs of the industry.
Updated score: 9, and that's only because it's not perfect just yet.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, July 25th, 2006 at 6:58 pm PST
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This gun is awefull. I barely got 2 shots out of this gun and I heard a blub blub blub Crash and burn. This is terible I can't stand it it's really that bad I couldn't stand it before I wanted to through it out the window.
Tippmann 98(much better)
Tippmann a-5(alot better)
Autococker trilogy(also alot better)
Various spyders(all of them better)
Tacamo wood ak-47 barrel kit
Tacamo wood ak stock
Tacamo sight rail
Opsgear ak-47 hideaway mag
Penspring and my own trigger modding
Stock hopper or 30 round tac cap
48/3000 pmi air tank
Better barrel(if you must keep the gun)
New expansion chamber(The one that comes stock doesnt do anything)
Lots a features
Light trigger pull
All the crap you get it is crap
Stock barrel blows
Picky about weather
Well my friend bought this gun online and we all had to try it out. I played a bit with it and it seemed alright at first. But when we started to play a bit we noticed the thing is terribly inaccurate and the expansion chamber does like nothing. The drop is really crappy too. The things stock barrel is terrible but even when my friend replaced it the gun still sucked. It had poor range and curved like mad. The thing has nice and shiny options but don't them fool you. I would never buy anything from 32 degrees after seeing this peice.
It was a peice my friend wont even play paintball anymore till he gets a new gun. Thanks 32 degrees your scaring newbs away from the sport. I'll give it a 3 cuz it did shoto and did have many features
3 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, March 31st, 2007 at 2:56 am PST
Fast for low-end gun
Looks,i love the looks
I haven't found any
I've used this gun about 10 times and it shoots beautifully,i haven't had a problem yet.i bought the gun at actionvillage.com for 80 bones.This gun in my opinion is the best for the price even though i havent shot much else.I've shot my friend's guns which were a victor II and a 98 custom.My gun never ever chopped yet,it has great speed and i think you cant beat the looks.
If your looking for a cheap beginner gun that is reliable,this is the gun
Well i was using this gun at the local Field when my imagine was broken and i rented it cuz it was cheap to rent. Well i get on Field start playing and im shooting it and so much smoke or air comes out the barrel it makes it hard to see and aim at lots of points. Also i was firing really fast and it broke about out of 10 balls so i needed to slow down my firing speed. Another bad thing is i was firing fast and balls go up and don no accuracy really.
Its okay if u dont care and just want to shoot like 3 shoots a second