Here it is, FINALLY. A practically flawless mechanical gun. The sister gun of the popular ICON-E, the Z series gun has all the goodies and great features, minus the electronics. Add to all of this a 2 year factory warranty and you will see why this is one of the best deals in paintball.
The 32 Degrees Icon Z is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
Stingray 2: Junk
Avenger: Nothing Close
2K Cocker: Better, more expensive tho
2K Cocker w/12v revy, kaner barrel, and 9oz tank
new barrel, but stock isn't bad
Accurate with bore match, cool, awesome value, light trigger pull.
trigger is cheaply made, low ROF, wrong bore match and your sunk.
A very good all around marker. Pretty cool, but the best part is its awesome value.
The quick disconnect is a big help: only has like 5 parts to take out to clean it up and it takes what like 10 secs.
It is VERY accurate with the right paint-barrel bore match. I cannot even begin to tell you how accurate it is when you get the bore sizes right. I used to regularly take people out over 150 feet away in 2 shots or less by just angling the gun up.
The trigger feels so cheap. that's i think what the other reviewers are defining as "slop" Not a big deal, just a little bit of that cheap feel.
sight rail scratches very easily for some reason.
Worst of all, if you put paint in it that isn't the right bore size, you can't hit a thing.
This gun is hard to rate because of the paint-barrel match issue. Its all or nothing in that regard, either you get a good bore size and it shoots almost perfectly or you don't and it sucks. So it hinders your ability to go to some tournaments and such that require the use of their paint (which prolly isn't the right bore size) unless you have a barrel kit that has inserts and stuff.
It is a very good gun, the BEST gun i have EVER seen for $80. As everyone has mentioned, it looks exactly like the E-99, because it basically is. So you're getting a mechanical version of the E-99 for $80: Awesome deal.
I'd recommend it to anyone looking to get into the sport and some intermediates that want a medium-performance marker.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, November 28th, 2004 at 6:33 am PST
-Imagine ( pretty much the same but electric)
-icon E of course
Icon Z with teardrop barrel and ricoche G2k Hopper
-Agitated hopper if you have a fast rate of fire,
-A new Barrel (of Course(although Stock is pretty kick a$$ ),
-Bigger Drop forward if you are a front player.
-looks pretty sweet
-ballanced pretty well
-no choped balls
-mini drop dosn't do much for me
For those of you out there who have a low budget and are desperately needing a new marker, [me :( ] getting this marker will be the right choice. first of all the stock barrel is surprisingly accurate, second of all its pretty quiet for a mechanical marker. also it is easy to clean and maintain, comes with quick disconnect pin and what not, which makes for easy field striping. the gun is ready to go out of the box, you will probably need to oil it a little bit first, but small amount of Crisco will do the trick. i have fired around one thousand rounds of paint ( im not sure what brand) and i have only chopped about 2 balls.
the only thing I did not like, was the Allen wrench that came with the gun was to big to fit into the bolts that hold the mini dropforward.
All in all, this gun is pretty sweet no major problems, in fact no problems as far as the actual playing with the gun goes, so i highly recommend this marker to any newb to the sport or any rec player who just wants to have fun. it also works pretty well in speed ball to but for that u need a new drop.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, December 23rd, 2003 at 8:44 pm PST
This is an open bolt, stacked tube, blowback semi. For around a hundred bucks, you really cant ask for much more. Mini-expansion chamber, drop forward, vertical feed, quick-strip, low pressure chamber, decent barrel. Once again, the market is crowded at this price range, so companies have to offer more options for the money. I bought this marker in the form of a Spyder TL Plus six years ago for two-fifty, and it had less features. The trigger is adequate, it's a long pull, but fairly light. These 'guns won't have too many problems, as long as properly oiled.
The two main nitpicks I have are thus; The vertical feed needs a plastic elbow, instead of including a low/high rise, or clamping feed. These elbows raise the height of your hopper, causing loss of balance, and are prone to breaking. Secondly, the color and design of the marker is rather boring. The finish is plain, and the splash design was only impressive seven years ago. Otherwise, This is great for its price.
If you're looking for a marker in this price range, this is as good of an option as any other Spyder clone, and definitly preferable over the similar priced Rebel Bottomline.
stock icon z
20 oz co2
PMI remote coil
barrel - definitely
hopper - if you have a fast rof
maybe a new drop forward but i use a remote
easy to maintain
decent accuracy (better with new barrel though)
poor drop forward
trigger kinda sux
This is a very good entry level marker. It is very easy to maintain because of its simplicity and it is a mechanical gun. Looks very nice and it shoots quite well in stock form. the drop forward, however, can easily come loose if your tanks is too heavy, so i used a remote coil. Also, the trigger pull is too long for my liking, and it is kinda bad too.
This is a very good entry level marker. It is inexpensive, so the low budget paintball player (me) can actually throw some paint around. However, there are some minor flaws in the gun, but what can you expect from a gun that costs that cheap? I give it a nine. Overall, this is a very nice gun to have and use.
genesis surge II - decent, but not as upgradeable.
new barrel ( of course). If you plan to use a larger bottle you will want a better drop forward, as the stock drop doesn't balance the gun well with a large bottle. ( although the incredibly light barrel adds to that effect. better hopper
good looks, totally upgradeable, fast out of the box
trigger feels a little sloppy, but maybe it's just me.
opened the box, set the velocity adjuster and let'er rip. gun is ready to go right out of the box. Only flaws so far are that the trigger has a little more slop in it than I would have liked, and it definitely needs an electro-hopper. I was getting quite a few dry fires once I started rocking the trigger ( but I guess it's a good thing that it outfires a standard hopper in stock form).
great starter gun. for the price I can't think of any gun I'd rather have. I kind of wish I had gone with the led model now just for sheer fun factor, however I can always just get the 32 degrees trigger frame for it and VIOLA! giving it a 9 because of the trigger slop.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, November 18th, 2003 at 3:40 pm PST
New barrel(I thought stock was good but upgrades are always good to have
Pretty accurate with stock barrel. Extremely Quiet. Cant beat price
New barrel. If you buy this in a package, bigger Co2 tank
This gun is only 90 dollars and you cant beat the price. My friend has a Spyder Victor and when we played i wasted him. I feel sorry for him that he spendt $130 dollars and that i only spendt 90. This gun only chopped a couple balls, but that is only because i was using the cheepest paint i could find.
There are a lot of reasons you should buy this gun. Price,functoin,and great looks to top off a great gun
Phyco Ballistics drop, new barrel(stock is fine), good hopper
accurate, sweet lookin', fast, good trigger pull, quiet
none that i can think of. none come to mind
i have only had this gun for about a week and only shot about 300 rounds of core paint,and all ready i can tell this is gonna whip everyones butt. ive only broken 2 balls but i dont have any upgrades, and its on a count of i shoot to fast. perfect gun for me and i would reccommend it to anyone. got mine for $78 and it doen't have any flaws.
all i can say is to get this gun. it is the best newbie gun to me besides the 98 custom. if u buy this gun, it will not fail you. im just saying... if you shoot fast, make sure you buy at least a 12 volt revy. your gonna need it.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, November 19th, 2003 at 2:04 pm PST