2k2 vert feed cocker w/ STO 3-way and 20 oz. anti-siphon c02 .... ..... yeah dog .
New 3-way ... . . . shortens trigger pull. New barrel .. . . . stock barrel has no porting so it is kind of loud. . . . . not much . .. . . nitro if you consider that a gun upgrade
Oh my god . .. . . accurate ..... Also fast . . . . even stock, it = very fast ( 7-9 bps) Though I would reccocmend getting a planet eclipse or dye hinge frame just to make it even faster and for me it feels more natural
At first, it seems like a pretty high-matianence ( I spelt that wrong oops ) but after you get used to adjusting the velocity and cleaning it, it is fine. Adjusting the velocity is a pain because you have unscrew the cocking rod thingy and turn the allen wrench, then you screw the cocking rod back in. But if you are still shooting hot, you have to do it all over again.
If you think you can upgrade a spyder to make it as good as a 'cocker, you're wrong ( no offense, I once thought like you until the local shop owner who happens to play for the Warped Kidz showed me the light ) It seems like a high upkeep gun, but it isn't really . . .. ... . .. . So in conclusion, just represent and buy a 'cocker.
Autococker 2002 vertical feed
drop forward mounting
metal trigger grame
Preset 3000 PSI air system
Metal trigger frame (stock one seems really easy to break)
Accuracy (even with the stock barrel. My boomstick arrived only today and I wasn't able to test it yet
Rate of fire. With a little practice and the good rythm, I m damn sure you will be able to shoot nearly as fast (even faster) as many electronic markers
Look (even the standart cocker is awsomly beautyful)
The price complete and nearly operationnal right from the box (mine was perfectly set)
The possible evolutions. As always with the cocker, you can change everything you want for charisma reasons or for performances, and you can do it small parts at a time.
I think you gotta use air. A friend of mine owns a STO and it is also great with air, but becomes sort of unstable with CO2. If you invest in a cocker, just invest in a preset air system, you will save money over a long period and really enjoy your marker.
The rate of fire. You will HAVE to adapt to the typical tchi pou tchi pou of the autococker. If you don't, and have an out of timing rytthm, you will break somme paint.
Thats pretty much it
For my first games with my brand new marker, I was sent to heaven.
Sure I broke a couple of times just to get in the right rythm, but even with the stock barrel, it was deadly accurate.
On one game, with only two shot left, I dumped my opposite number with one and shot the remaining corner player 35 yards away from there in his hooper with my last remaining shot.
I wonder how deadly it will be with my 14'' boomstick.
For only a fraction of the price of an electromarker (I'm talking about the heavy stuff here, Angel, IR3, Impulse etc...) you will receive the most enjoyable and accurate marker I've ever seen. And more than that, a marker that will last for years if you consider the amount of spare parts and upgrade parts available.
If you have the money for it, than just run to your local dealer to buy one, you won't be disappointed.
BUT remember that if you change only ONE thing, than buy a metal trigger frame right away, I don't really trust the stock one
Piranha STS G3----Nothing compared to this Cocker!
Blue WGP 2002 Vertical Feed AutoCocker
Barrel--- Most people say it sucks but I think its great! Today (10/11/02) is the first time I shot my cocker off, its a heck of a lot better then my phish ever was!
Revvy--- Im getting one soon but vertical feed is good, I didn't dry fire out of the 100 paintballs I shot off... With my phish I did.
Nitro--- Nice to have if you can afford!
Get the upgrades in that order!
And then any other small things like pneumatics and all that...
Accurate!-On the field I made I can shoot from one side to the other my phish never never never did that!
Not Heavy But Not Super Light! Easy to carry around!
Color- Gives you a choice in color so that you dont have to get black or whatever... My phish had to be black because that was the only available color...
Easy To Maintain...
Maybe the weight of the gun could be a difference then you old one that you got use to but you get over it... Im over it! LOL.
Great Gun!!! If your thinking about another gun get a cocker! I love mine! Ill write another review with my upgrades I get on it...
2002 VF Autococker
12vt Revolution Hopper
JT - 2 Piece 10" Stainless
68 CI Fiber Wrapped Nitro Duck w/ Loc Sok
Shocktech drop forward
WGP Chrome Hinge
Trigger Frame ( Stock will break )
Maybe a bomb 3-way, but stock pnues are excellent.
This marker is hella accurate once you get a good barrel on it. It is also
surprisingly fast. Tight shot groupings a far ranges. Excellent feel and control,
gigantic aftermarker of parts. Upgrading is almost as much fun as playing.
Not a great first marker. Get something cheap like a spyer or tippman first, but
don't waste time upgrading. Then go straight for the cocker. Not great out
of the box ( barrel )...but not to many markers are.
This is an excellent marker. There is a reason so many people use them. I am coming from a Gen2 Black Dragun with an electronic trigger and a
1.0mm pull. I rarely shortstroke the stock trigger on the autococker. This is a fine piece of equipment, and is plenty fast even out of the box, but you can always make it faster if you like. I recommend this to anyone wanting to get a serious high-end marker, that won't empty their pockets.
The good is when this gun does work it works great…...Its the best gun for the money....And the WGP Company rocks..They take care of you...Just dont play around with your gun to much if you dont know what your doing..Leave it alone if its working...Learn it before you destroy it....
I am new to paintballing and I just recently started. I decided to spend the extra money and buy a Auto Cocker. My friend also got the same gun. My gun went bad for 3 weekends in a row. They replaced it 3 times in a row and after this last time I finally had it cause it just destroyed my weekend. Finaly I decided to upgrade to a Outkast autococker hoping it would make the difference . I had more problems with it but luckily the place where I went had the WGP team playing in a tournament and they took my gun and they are taking care of me. Other then bad luck you should be fine with this gun. WGP makes the best guns for the best price, I just have horrible luck.. I cant even buy Gum that’s not broken lol PS. My friend that got the same gun has had no problems at all..he loves it..
If you want the best gun for the best price buy this gun....if your a once a year player buy this gun....if you go all the time buy this gun...CONCLUSION IS BUY THIS GUN ...but pray you have better luck then me... :)
autococker blk vertical
shocktech mini drop forward and asa
shocktech cocking rod
shocktech supa fly bolt
freak barrel system
bulldog 68/4500 nitro
ricochet ak hopper
This gun is very accurate and reliable. It use to take 3 shots to get my spyder on target from 25 yards but with my autococker one shot and your out. very easy to maintain. The price for the gun not too bad considering you are getting an good gun for around $300 and with a little upgrades to make it a great gun you will only spend around $500 half the price of an angel.
some people think the timing but if you read up on it and understand how the gun works then that is no problem. If you don't know what you are doing and your gun is working then do not mess with the timing. After about 2000 shots my pin broke from my cocking block. Since I did not notice it right away my bolt fell out. Likely I found it. The grips and barrel on the gun suck.
If you dont want to spend thousands of dollars on a angel and want a better gun then a spyder, ect.... then get an autococker you will not be disappointed.
02 stock vertical cocker with CP barrel, shocktech drop, nitro duck tuff skin 68 3000 tank
This is almost the perfect marker, in my opinion. The only thing I wish it had was a faster ROF. But I can still send the paint down range with this gun. The reliability is sweet. The few times I have played with it I have never broken a ball yet. However, that is from only about 2000 rounds. The accuracy is phenominal. With Diablo Blaze and my CP barrel I can put em one on top of the other up to about 25yds.
When I first took the gun out of the box the timing was slightly off so I had to adjust it. However, I set it so that balls were sucked down into the breech. Besides I like adjusting the timing because to me this marker is like my instrument. When I time it I know it will perform.
If you like to play around with your marker off the field and have the option to adjust every little part to peak performance. Then the autococker is the way to go. It is super easy on paint and the accuracy is all you could ever ask from a paintball gun. The only area of improvement is ROF, if it had the trigger of an electro then the gun would be perfect. But as you know we dont live in a perfect world so deal with the mechanical trigger and go out and buy one.
2002 Vert feed
68/3000 Bulldog 2
Freak system w/ 12" AA Front
WGP Hinge Trigger
Wicked Sports All-Delrin bolt
Isn't she sexy?
1) tomsanta should be kicked in the head.... "... expansion chamber really sucks" ... that's because it's a regulator you moron. "... needs a new barrel ..." Show me a gun that doesn't. " ... makes a cool clicky sound when you fire it ..."
This guy rated a cocker a ONE ... he needs his head checked.
I play every weekend with guys that have 98's, spyders, rebels, bushy's, and 2 automags. My gun is by FAR the smothest and quiettest on the field, ask any of them. Very quiet, very accurate. Heavy? What gun are you used to if you're calling a cocker heavy? Light, and with a nice drop it's a very compact gun. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
1) A bit of shootdown, but that'll go away once i get a palmer reg. It took about a week to get used to the trigger pull, the hinge/swing frame is a must if you ask me.
2) Requires an IQ above 60, leaving saps like tomsanta $#@! out of luck.
Screw spending $500+ on a cocker you're going to strip down and replace everything on. Get this one, throw a hinge and a new barrel on it and you're golden.