The L.E.D. display will make it easier to switch the modes of fire, making for faster play. Comes with battery and charger. Semi, 3 Burst, and Full Auto firing modes -Advanced Electronic Trigger Frame -Fore Grip with Expansion Chamber - Up to 13 Shots/sec - Controlled Rate of Fire - All-in-one Custom Sight Rail -Low Pressure Chamber -Quick Disconnect Pin -Custom Vertical Feed Port -Custom Anodizing -All New Style Ball Detent -Rear Velocity Adjuster w/ lock. Gun also features tournament lock.
The 32 Degrees Icon LED is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
Have used stingrays, icon e, tippman 98, A-5, spyders, low end guns.
2003 Silver Icon LED
Barrel first, along with an aggitating hopper, eventually a regulator and bolt.
Pretty accurate, and conservative on air, 1200 shots per12 ounce. and 13bps is nice.
Sight rail is useless, an the gun is mainly for scenario or novice tourneys.
I've had this gun since January of 04The first thing I'm going to point out is that the spring buffers in these guns are worthless. They deteriorate and eventually have to be thrown away. After you get rid of the old buffer, you have to wait on another spring buffer, because if you shoot your gun without one it will weaken the rear setup eventually causing it to shatter. The only reason I know this is because it happened to me and a friend. We both were forced to ask for (and received free) new rear setups because they broke, even the velocity adjusters snapped off inside the gun. When you do send out for a new one, they are sending out better ones that are lighter and stronger. As for the problem with the spring buffer I have read on this site that you can get some from kingman, but you have to pony up $8.
Next I had the problem with my board not working. I would shoot my gun a few times and the battery would just die. This was repeated with numerous batteries. Finally after sending my gun it I got it to work. It turned out that I was being stupid and turning my gun on while it was plugged into the wall charger. DO NOT DO THIS! It overcharges your battery, and burns your board destroying them both.
The only other problem is that with a spring kit that increases the velocity, the battery that is sent with it is a little weak, so your gonna need a good 9.6 rechargable from a battery store. I have been told that the 9volt batteries work but I have yet to find good ones that last all day. The stock ones won't last you all day if your shooting around 300fps, only around 700 shots.
Once you get everything in order, the gun itself is really a nice gun that can spray some serious paint and can be pretty intimidating. Of course you will need a new barrel (the stock is ok, I would give it a 6.5), and an agitated hopper to keep up with all that paint. I wouldn't recommend drilling out the venturi as it causes the balls to fly all over. I would worry about the bolt last, as it will give you the smallest amout of bang for your buck. Nitrogen won't help much either unless you get a decent regulator on your gun, check the stickies for upgrades!!!
Compared to a 98C these shoot faster, duh, but in order to get your velocity up with the tippys your gonna need a spring kit. With a decent barrel and paint these can be more accurate and nearly twice as fast as a stock tippman 98c.
These are nice guns when you step up from a semi or pump. Compared to other guns these do not hold their weight against higher end guns without putting a lot of upgrades on them, and they are physically capped for bps.
If your looking at buying a gun to upgrade from a semi, I would recommend this or an imagine. I have heard that these are available for around 100 bucks as of 02-05. Personally if your experienced with these types of guns and are looking to upgrade I would go for a BKO if you have the money. The 05's are coming standard with PDS, adn a ton of other upgrades for around 400 bucks. Just a thought if you've got the money.
Otherwise these are extremely upgradable, and a low cost full auto gun capable of 13bps. I would recommend this to ANYONE who is upgrading from a low end semi-auto or someone who is just getting into the game. These are good beginner guns with a lot of available parts to make it a great gun.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, February 9th, 2005 at 12:21 pm PST
Black Icon LED with 21 inch demon sniper barrel( i use the stock barrel more tho, so i can use the full auto with out chop),a smoke halo TSA lCD hopper and a 20 oz C02 tank.
A new hopper and maybe a barrel
Nothing,except it chops three times every 1000 balls
Ok this gun is awesome as heck. its got semi auto, 3 round burst and full auto.I LOVE THE GUN SO MUCH. i guess its not as good as an angel only cause you cant shoot 30 paintballs a second but who can even pull the damn trigger that fast?and are you really that trigger happy?i love the semi auto even more then the full because you can pull the trigger so easy.the stock barrel has awesome accuracy for being a stock.its a great gun i dont see why people could give this gun a nine, let alone a 8 or below. with the right hopper( a halo tsa or above) this gun is flawless. Words cant explain how good this gun is. it can compare to a omen and those things are way more. i say buy this gun because this gun is so good
this gun is a flawless victory.you can shoot so many people and it dont chop and since words cant explain how good this gun is, GO OUT AND BUY IT, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they should move this gun to hybrid electro
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, November 22nd, 2004 at 12:59 am PST
Barrel, feedneck, trigger, micro- switch, a/s or HPA, empire reloader or evolution2
Speed, size, weight, accuracy, durability.
A friend of mine bought one of these earlier this year, and I have been able to test it out on many occasions. The first time I tested it, it didn't shoot very far (it later chronoed at 220). On the playing field, it didn't do very well stock. It has pretty good accuracy, but the faster you shoot, the more accuracy diminishes (because of kick). It isn't very consistent when used with unregulated co2.
To make it work well, I recommend the following upgrades:
To take your gun to top level performance:
*** This gun has spyder threads. It also has both offset and standard bottomline holes.
Stock, this gun is horrible. With a few upgrades, it is very competitive. With many upgrades, this gun can rival any on the field.
This gun is the exact same thing as the spyder imagine. I would get the imagine, just because it's a lot cheaper.
I'm giving this a rating based on having just a new barrel, an empire reloader, and anti-siphon/x-chamber. Those things will be what [i]most[/i] led users use. I'm comparing this to other products in it's class (hybrid blowbacks). Be reminded that 5 is average.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, August 16th, 2004 at 1:05 pm PST
I originally got this marker by going to a local paintball store and asking for a recommendation for a good beginner marker. They suggested that I either try the Tippmann 98C or the ICON LED. They were selling the two at the same price, so I took the ICON for the electronic trigger.
When I got this marker home it worked great. It chopped a few balls, so I went out and got an agitated hopper. This seemed to fix the chopping for the most part. Unfortunately that's the beginning of where my more serious problems began.
After firing in full auto mode for a while, the bolt would get re-cocked, but the trigger would not release it. I attributed this to the gun freezing up from firing too quickly. I also noticed that the screws that held the tank connector to the bottom of the grip were working their way lose. I kept having to re-tighten those back in.
I put some thread locker on the screws and the next day, took my marker out to play. When I got out to the field, I went to test it. I pulled the marker out, cocked it, and pulled the trigger. All I heard was a click. I tried this about 3 more times before it actually fired. I thought this was pretty strange.
I continued playing with my marker because I had nothing else to use. By the end of the day, it would not fire 3 out of 5 times. I took the gun back in to where I bought it where it was diagnosed with a bad solenoid. The guy that was helping me there said that this was a common problem with the gun.
I would recommend to avoid this gun. While it is cheap, it seems to be very good at causing more frustration than anything else. As far as a beginner marker, I would recommend a Tippmann 98C. My friend has one of them and is very happy with it. He has not had one single problem with it. In my mind, reliability is the #1 concern for a beginner marker, and this one does not show that.
I have a blue Icon LED with this 14" Punishment barrel and an Empire Reloader hopper with a 9 and a 12oz. tank.
Get a new barrel and a decent electric hopper to use the automatic mode. Get a better 9V battery. The aiming rail is completely useless since the feed is vertical.
May use Spyder accessorries.
This gun is great for begginners. I have used it in many games since my backyard is a paintball field. This gun does chop paintballs as so many people say, but only if you have a sucky hopper. This gun is unreliable because of its weight and cheap screws. The barrel and elbow it comes with SUCK. But the 3 modes and accuracy are nice to have. It is also easy to clean. This gun's aiming rail is useless. The vertical feed is also good. If the batteries get low, the gun jams.
Buy it new. This is cheap and for an automatic! WOW! It's price is worth it since it has many dissadvantages.
revolution hopper with x board
14" whisper barrel
psycoballistics bullet drop forward
supa fly bolt from shock tech
68 4500 nitro tank
drop forwark to balance weight
Easy to clean
It is heavy and it chops sometimes and the stock bolt and barrel is bad.
I hve used this gun for a year now and im about to get a pro gun but if you get th right upgrades this gun is awsome. I like it a lot but it is an intermediate gun and im going to start playing in tournaments. It would be great for rec ball and scenario and small speedball. I really like the balance of the gun out of the box with a 45 300 nitro tank it has the perfect balance.
I think that this gun is great for he intermediate player or even the begginer
Icon LED with 12 inch teardrop barrel. a viewloader hopper and a 20oz co2
barrel and bolt
balnced and shoots well for price
the elbow and the stock barrel
All and all this is a very good gun. However a very crappy elbow for it. It broke in less then 3 hours use. also it is a copycat of spyder imagine. the grip on this gun is just basically plastic which gives me blister but the performance is still way nice. without that i give this gun all it deserves.
but this it is just like spyder imagine but uhhhh well get either.
P.E. 68/4500 N2
CP 1 Peice
New Barrel For Sure
Maybe New Grip
Better Exp. Chamber or Regulator
Trigger is good
Great Feel For Gun
I think this is an okay marker. You should get lots of upgrades for it to make it better. It's just so LOUD, compared to my Evo, this thing sucks; but it's still a great gun. If your using full auto or can outrun your hopper, get something like a Halo or an Egg. It's somewhat accurate, but you'd need another barrel. Lots of ball breaks. You should save your money for something like the Piranha EXT pro 2k4, Dragun TES, Smart parts Ion, or Piranha Evo, it would be worth it.
You should save your money for something like the Piranha EXT pro 2k4, Dragun TES, Smart parts Ion, or Piranha Evo, it would be worth it.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, February 14th, 2005 at 8:33 pm PST
32 degrees icon LED, 32deg remote, basic pack, 20oz tank with on/off, 14 inch empire twister barrel, empire reloader hopper, DYE LED sticky grips, JT gloves.
new barrel (spyder thread)
empire reloader hopper (agitated)
-love the fast shooting (3, auto, semi)
-battery is pretty weak
-sight rail is ineffective
This gun shoots awsome right from the box. The battery comes charged, and is ready to fire. This is the most accurate gun I have ever seen. It cleans the floor over the spyder imagine. It hardly ever chops a ball, unless you use afterburners... (DONT). I am very happy with this gun and I hope that many people buy it. It works great for tournies, or regular play. I can pin the elbow under a hopper with one shot from 50ft. I think that this gun is the best clone ever. It is better than the original spyder imagine. I hope that beginners, or even tournie players find this gun. C YA ON THE FIELD.
The gun can be a little hard on CO2, but thats all i can find.
Awesome gun. Accurate, sleek look. I am very happy with this gun. I dont know what this other guy is talking about. Great gun! I wish i could give this gun 11
GO FLAMES GO
Spyder Fenix, Boomstick Barrel, Halo b hopper, Nitro Tank, Spyder Spring Set
Cheap, Durable, Automatic
Copycat, Trigger, chops balls
Well first of all this gun is EXACTLY like the spyder imagine. Buit what can i say this is a great gun. it can go semi, 3 round burst or full auto and it can shoot 13 balls a second. that is pretty good for 130 dollars. this gun does break balls once in a while but that rarely happens. This gun definetly needs a new barrel the stock barrel isint that great.
well overall this is a great gun especially a good automatic for the price.