ICD 45 grip: FAR Superior in comfort with panel grips
All other 45 framed paintball guns, several firearms, etc..
Multiple setups, depending on the setting. My favorite, though:
Black VSC Phantom, ICD 45 frame, Shocktech trigger shoe, barrel AND body bored for freak inserts (prevents double feeds), rear gauge, adjustable shoulder stock(possibly Taso, no clue really)
Best option direct from factory, easily attainable.
Feels terrible with panel grips, the angle is off.
The quality of construction is fantastic. The anodizing is always perfect. Basically, it's a CCI product so everything about it is phenomenal with possible exception of the design. In this case, the design needs improvement. The bottom of the grip should be closer to the front of the gun, giving less of an angle. The milling of the edges should be more comfortable when held with panel grips. I would love to see SS inserts on the threads, like other Phantom parts.
If you like using wrap around grips and you don't mind the angle of this frame, it's the best choice for you due to it's availability. It's not cheap, though. You could find something that would work in BST forums if you kept checking them for far less. For a bit more cash you could pick up a CCM 86 degree frame, but I would never recommend buying a something that's primary function is comfort without having held it for yourself. Seeing has how those are rare, you either are lucky to find someone to test it or risk it. The same applies to the CCI 45 frame.
5 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 at 3:48 pm PST
Ok before i bought my Phantom i tried out several kinds to see what i liked in a Phantom. I tried both the .45 and m-16 and heres what i found. Warnong: most of this is personal preference.
Rubber is much softer then plastic . It also has grooves for all of your fingers as opposed to the 2 on the m-16.
To me this makes thr Phantom look so much more proffesional. The rubber looks nice as opposed the cheap look of plastic. Now yes i know them -16 grip is used on one of Americas most successful rifles but still, the government isnt none for making things look pretty.
Easy to find:
If something goes wrong with this like o say it breaks, u can just buy the grip panels as opposed to the while grip frame like you would with the m-16.
Now for the bad as small as it is...
Some people say it doesnt feel sticky enough. Now to me isnt a very big issue but to others it might be. Also rubber is going to be a lot more sticky then the plastic m-16. And if you really have your heart set on sticky grips, just pick up some dye stickies.
Nice product, very comfortable and you can buy many different .45 grips for the Phantom. I personaly think it is a much better then the m-16 wich is the Phantoms other choice.
Alright, so I'm about to ruin this grip's perfect score, so sue me. I tried this grip out on another Phantom and didn't like the feel of it at all. It was at a weird angle to me, and felt fat and slipper with the stock grips. There are some strenghts to it though, like it being easily able to accept a ASA or a stock. You can also put on aftermarket grips if you like.
I don't really recommend it, but you need to try it for yourself. It's all preference.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, September 11th, 2007 at 3:03 pm PST
I have tested the m-16 grip and its not nearly as comfortable as the .45. My phantom has a forty five grip, which comes tapped with the holes for a bottom line or stock without buying adaptor blocks for the m-16 style.
To change the grips is very easy as well, it just takes using an allen wrench through the bottom of the m-16 grip or under the grip panels of the .45
When i first used it, it felt slightly uncomfortable and my pinky rubbed a bit on my finger and i didn't realize that my hands where not seated how they are supposed to be, shooting other guns once i figured this out this helped my accuracy shooting (go figure) its not hard fix just stare at it and move your finger hold it there and check and make sure its seated.
I think this grip is better than the m-16 grip and is slightly more expensive but in my eyes is worth it. I don't really find any major flaw in this its easy to install and operate you cant really complain, and it also has good looks. I give this product a ten out of ten for being great and flawless.
11inch barrel &14inch
15rnd feed tube
im looking for a carbon fiber barrel if anybody knows where to get one please email me at email@example.com
also expantion chamber&bullet drop, i use 12 grams but i like haveing an expantion to stabize the air flow & stop liquide CO2
I dont use this gun anymore, but i own it
double finger trigger
dye sticky grip
you can mount many stocks and drops with 45 grip, cant with M16.
I recieved a phantom VSC for christmast and it had an M16 grip on it , the grip didnt matter to me, but i wanted to put an expantion chamber on it and i dont like remotes so i bought the 45 grip and put a drop forward on it now i have a constant flow ( no liquide C02)
I would reccomend this to anybody
10 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, February 17th, 2005 at 6:07 pm PST
I have held other markers, of course, but have never compaired the grips of those markers against that of the Phantom
Black VSC Phantom .45 grip with clear parts breech and a 14" barrel
For some, not sticky enough
Hard to get use to at first
I received my first Phantom in the middle of July, 2004. I brought it outside, charged it with a 12 gram, and started firing it (with marbs). The marker felt very good in my hands. It was light and everything, but after a while I noticed that I was not holding it right. I was naturally skipping one of the indents for my last finger (pinky) without knowing it. I sort of had to "teach myself" to hold it right. After about a week of practicing, I would pick up the marker, look at my hand, and it would fall into the grooves perfectly. I have never heard of anyone else having this problem, but I am the first one to write a review on this product. It feels good now and I have no complaints.
I had a little fluke with it when I first got it, but that is a personal thing. There are no visual nicks or blemishes. It fits the marker perfectly. It is comfortable enough. All in all it is a great stock grip on a great marker.