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Kingman ESP Rocking Trigger Frame
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Number of Reviews: 74
Average Rating: 8.7 / 10
Manufacturer Website: Click here
Suggested Retail Price: $60

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Kingman Group is thrilled to announce the release of the new ESP Rocking Trigger frame to a select group of Kingman Authorized Dealers. With our patented two-contact design, this trigger truly is Revolutionary! Rarely before in paintball history has a new product emerged which has the ability to completely change the game. This new trigger is easy to install and compatible with all current Spyder markers. The dual-contact trigger action allows for up to 30-balls-per-second! Kingman Group is confident that our excitement will be shared by the thousands of players who will now be able to upgrade their Spyder markers to absolutely the fastest on the field. The Rocking Trigger comes standard with a Java 9.6V rechargeable battery and charger.
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The Kingman ESP Rocking Trigger Frame is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
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KhmerVengace Tuesday, March 8th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month11 of 12 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 years
Similar
Products Used:
none
Marker Setup: spyder Xtra with 15 degree assault block/w dye gauge, st!ffi carbonfiber barrel, kingman rocker trigger, evil spyder piranha bolt
Strengths: Fires pretty, fast im not sure about 30
Weaknesses: Feels akward
Review: Um... people say it's flimsy, it's not realy flimsy. i have had 2 chops but that's cause my hopper couldn't feed fast enough. when i tried it w/ jus my gravity feed man it chopped like crazy so use an elect hopper or the Qloader,evo or halo would be good. other than starving my marker due to feed issues i nvr had a problem so far. good way to shoot is put your finger in the middle and wiggle it up and down i've had better result shooting that way than walking the trigger. other than that kingman priced it too high i got mine for 175 but the msrp is a crazy price i would rather buy a new board for an electric trigger which woulda of been just as fast . [ i put a spring unde rmy trigger so i wouln't have to rock it , so i jus use it like a normal trigger but it fires twice for every trigger pull unless i dotn pull all the way then it fires once]
Conclusion: Besides the high price and the akward feeling i like it so i would give it an eight
Rating:
8 out of 10
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smallTALK_snipe Monday, February 21st, 2005
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Only tested3 of 11 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Marker Setup: JT Excellerator 3.5E
PMI Razzor Barrel
"Bandit" Bolt (Anti-chop)
72/4500 Nitro Duck Aluminum Preset Nitro
Viewloader eVolution II-w/Y-Board
Strengths: Umm faster??
Weaknesses: Kingman lied, they said 30 balls per second BULLCRUD!!!!!!!
Review: I thought this would actually give my fenix 30 bps, yeah.....rigght. Kingman needs to retool their advertising because thats not right. Lieing will only make us think all their descripsions are lies. This trigger frame also feels wierd. Its different from a normal, so you have to ghet used to it. Shooting slow is harder too. The only thing you can do on this is walk it. There is no pull it once, it makes it harder. The bps is only like 2-3 bps higher and for almost 200 bucks thats not worth it. Upgrade from a fenix to a cocker for almost that.
Conclusion: I guess it would make the vistor faster but heyy, who wants a fast victor anyways????
Rating:
6 out of 10
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rcxpaintball Saturday, January 29th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month57 of 86 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
E-frames
Strengths: A few, read review
Weaknesses: Many, read review
Review: After toying around with the rocker frame for a few weeks we found a few things out about it.

The frame itself is rather cheaply constructed, for the price we wish that kingsman would have used a higher quality material for making this frame. Even with a aluminum trigger frame we managed to dent it within the first ten minutes we had it, coincidently we found that holding a marker with two hands is always a good idea. We also wish that they offered a frame WITHOUT the board. This would have allowed for a cheaper price tag, which is one other big issue we have with thi frame, when we first recieved this frame we were only mildly impressed with the stock board. We quickly swapped the board for a aftermarket board to allow for a greater potencial of this frame. After testing it out with the aftermarket frame we found that the stock pull was very uncomfortable and needed to be adjusted to allow for a faster ROF. After adjusting we took a dremmel to the bump in the frame to allow for a more confortable hold. After all that work we found that this frame was fast, but very ackward. There was no one finger pluck, one had to alternate contact points for a constant fireing rate. This equated into a HUGE dissadvantage in our eyes. As for ROF, it was impressive but nothing what we expected. We were able to outshoot the rocker frame using a spyder with a modified trigger frame and T-board. For nearly 200$ one would expect for a faster ROF.

Our next big cosern was the chopping....oh lord the chopping. We incoutered MASSIVE chopping with this frame. The use of a OTB Blind bolt reduced chopping by about 30%. However that was less than satisfactory to us. We used a Kingsman Anti-Chop bolt next. We recieved a drop in the number of chops but still were recieveing a large number of chops useing the so called "Anti-Chop" bolt. We took the spyder and installed the eyes. We still had a few chops but now it was down to about 5%. Adjusting the T-board allowed for a decrease in chops down to about 3%. We next installed a dual detent and installed a Delrin stubby bolt. This eleminated nearly all chops. We incountered a few chops every so often but that is expected. After getting it set up for a decent ROF we began to practice with the frame. After several days of practicing we were able to achieve a very satisfactory ROF, nothing to impressive but still a good ROF. It was a comfortable frame to hold a consistant fast ROF, however short burst proved to be ackward. This frame is good for long strings of fast shots. Not to good for short quick bursts.

We decided to rip this frame apart to modify the frame for a better speed. First we took off the trigger. We took a sheet of sheet metal and used a plasma cutter (Big thanks Jim and his shop for letting us use their computer operated plasma cutter). We made a trigger the hooked at the ends and had a lump in the center. It looked like a "C" but with a small lump in the center. This we thought would allow for a better "feel" of the trigger, and would result in a better finger seperation. We made the trigger purposly thin in the center were the pivot point was (where it attached to the frame). We used "SuperSlick Clean Glide Pads" trimmed down to allow for a smoother pull. We found it was a hair loose but shoving another shim made of SuperSlick Pads fixed that. We next dusted it with powder graphite (as instructed in the SuperSlick Pads). When we used it we found the pull was so smooth we cound shake the marker and achieve a high ROF...this was good but impractical for running. We Increased the shim size for a tighter fit and got a decent pull out of it. We found the trigger we made was better than the stock one but was still impractical and ackward. Hopefully someone will come out with an aftermarket trigger for this frame soon. For those of you trying to visualise what the trigger we made was think a backwards 3 only without the sharp points.

Conclusion: Overall it is a nice frame, but it borrows heavily from the rocker trigger that was done to mags (AGD) a long time ago, it does use a different method of opperation but uses the same concept. If kingsman reworks this frame (as we are sure they will) and drops the price, we feel it is a frame you should look at. But not until then, the software is still buggy on the stock board and the frame has some kinks that need to be worked out. So wait untill a new version comes out, and hopefully the price drops.
Rating:
5 out of 10
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VT_GuNNeR Saturday, January 29th, 2005
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Only tested11 of 38 people found this review helpful.

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Experience:
1 year
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Products Used:
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Marker Setup: = 2k2 Intimidator =
Frenzy Board
Dye Ultralight
Shocktech Bolt
Dye Throttle 71ci / 4500
Halo B
Strengths: A little faster than stock E-Trig
Weaknesses: 30 Balls a second? Kingman Lied!!
Review: When i first saw this on a spyder fenix i noticed how flimsy it was. Yes the trigger is quite faster but it only shoots like 2-5 bps faster and when you do shoot that fast your gun is gonna start chopping like crazy because you and i both know that the ACS was just a 50 dollar way to say "i chop" ahahaha.
Conclusion: Dont get it. This product is not worth the price. Ill just give it a 6 because its slightly better than your average trigger.
Rating:
6 out of 10
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