Heavy, not the same quality as vintage WGP, requires force loader, hard to upgrade
Review:
Note: This is a review of the Trilogy Tactical SelectFire model.
Picked this gun up a year ago for $100 on ebay as a refurb. Initial dry firing went well, but test firing with paint resulted in lots of chops. After some research I discovered that the high eye placement combined with the short (and non-adjustable) eye delay on the SelectFire frame results in chopped paint unless you use a loader that keeps constant tension on the ball stack. Even my Eggy3 wouldn't keep up with it.
Eventually I picked up an Empire MagnaDrive and made my way back out to the field with the gun a couple weeks ago. With the new hopper, it worked flawlessly. With a good barrel match, it was as consistent and accurate as I'd expect from any factory autococker.
The SelectFire frame, while not as versatile as an E-blade, works just fine on the Trilogy, as long as you've got a good force-feed loader. The trigger is light and adjustable and allows for a good ROF on semi. I don't use ramping on the field, but testing proves that it works well and doesn't chop paint.
The marker is definitely heavy. I run a remote, so the weight doesn't bother as much as it might others, but it is something to keep in mind. The front rail is easy to remove to drop some weight, though.
The only thing I don't like about this marker is the solenoid kick. The SF frame uses a small air-actuated solenoid inside the frame to actuate both the sear and the timing rod. Every time you pull the trigger, there's a small 'tap' inside the frame. It's not really noticable initially, but I did notice it after putting half a case through the marker and realizing that the nerves in my hand were getting beat up. It's not a huge deal, but again, something to keep in mind.
All in all, not a bad marker. It's a good alternative to the 2k1 mechanical that I use. It's not as smooth or consistant, nor does it feel as sturdy, but it's fast, reliable, and gets the job done.
Conclusion:
If you're looking for autococker performance and don't want to spend a lot of time tuning, a trilogy isn't a bad way to go. The Tactical in particular has a nice camo anno design and the front rails can be used to mount various accessories if you so desire.
I give this product an 8 due to the solenoid kick and an overall cheaper feel than vintage autocockers have.
WGP tactical trilogy
200b hopper
24 oz tank CO2
Stock barrel
Recommended Upgrades:
electric hopper (needed direly, gun is too fast, lol)
maybe a smaller barrel
Strengths:
VERY quite
stock barrel is accurate
good with CO2
no recoil at all
Weaknesses:
Have to practice pulling the trigger at first.
Its a little heavy.
Review:
This is a down right good gun. I got mine for $60 on ebay a while ago and I am happy with it. what is a must to buy with this gun is an electric hopper, there is no recoil, so gravity fed hoppers just dont work (you have to shake em every 5 shots). The stock barrel is accurate but HUGE, I still havent found paint big enough to fit it, so a smaller barrel would be nice but isnt needed. most people say the timing is a problem with autocockers but I havent had to time mine once yet and its still goin fine.
Conclusion:
Cheap, Great woodsball gun, Durable, Accurate. what more could u want?
Spyder Rodeo - An inferior marker to the cocker, but a classic.
Smart Parts Ion - Much lighter trigger, but less accurate.
Marker Setup:
WGP Trilogy Tactical
20oz. tank
VL Evolution 3 loader
Recommended Upgrades:
Double trigger
grips
Strengths:
Accurate
Air efficient
Beastly looking!
Never chops.
Weaknesses:
Bit heavy, not too bad.
Review:
This definatley a good bang for the buck marker. I got mine for $50 on action village a couple of months ago. What a steal! I would recomend this marker to the beginner to intermediate player looking for a nice rec gun. It realy is great. I used it all day and not one chop. It shoots straight even with cheap paint like monster balls. I will be looking into getting a new fran]me and trigger as I really miss the double trigger, and the grips are really hard and uncomfortable. Other than that, a great buy.
Conclusion:
Go buy now! A cheap cocker that stands up to it's name.
Stock Barrel was fine, shot straight but no paint to barrel match.
Use HPA for shot consistency.
Drop forward if you like your marker close to you.
Strengths:
Rock solid construction and consistent accuracy.
Weaknesses:
Weighs a lot.
Review:
This marker is accurate and relatively quiet out of the box. I have found that it is heavy to lug around for more than a couple of hours if you have a full size HPA tank or 20 oz CO2. One of the nice things about this marker is that it is cheap and pretty much anything you throw on it in terms of accessories can be used on another marker with autococker barrel threads.
Conclusion:
If you are new to paintball and want your own equipment without spending a fortune this is the marker for you. A couple of online retailers are selling it for about $60 plus shipping and with the stock accuracy you won't be disappointed.
It loses 1 mark because of the weight.
Rating:
9 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, November 28th, 2007 at 12:35 pm PST
Bone Stock Trilogy Tactical
Freak
48ci 3000psi Pure Energy N2
Recommended Upgrades:
none, just use n2 if you can
Strengths:
Very accurate, quiet, good weight balance.
Weaknesses:
Upgradability, though i dont see the need to upgrade it
Review:
I was lucky enough to get this from action village for $46.75. But I would of paid $200 for it. I don't know how fast it will cycle out of the box, but I don't really care either. I got this to play woodsball with, and in woodsball i find accuracy and quietness more important than balls per second. The stock barrel is good, but like all guns, I opted for the freak. I find evil balls to shoot the best, and they fit great in the stock barrel. But with the freak on it, i can shoot darts at about 100ft. Just be sure to keep your front thumb down and away from the ram, i had to learn the hard way, so hopefully you wont get bit like i did.
Conclusion:
Great gun, very easy to maintain. Very accurate, quiet, and efficient. I give a 10 for use in woodsball.
Tactical frame
bigshot 12 barrel
Upraising Centerflag trigger
Black magic LPR With adapter LPR Nut sold on Ebay
Tippmann drop forward
Antichop Bolt
Revolution 12Vlt Squid propeller split second refill lid
Recommended Upgrades:
All that I listed
Strengths:
Reliable
hi modificable as an ordinary autococker
Not a CO2 Eater
Very Very Silent
Weaknesses:
a little Heavy
Review:
Had to work on her a while but it worth every thing money and time spent
It looks tuff bad to the bone, can use it for woodsball or fast ball
derlin antichop is a must on this baby if you are useng an alectro trigger
a adjustable feed neck is nesesary I canot put my halo in unless I sand it
I needs badly a drop forward
please be kind and use atisyphon on her your gaskets will thank you!
You can put any deacent LPR with an adapter
can use any trigger frame with an ajustable shaft (sold on Ebay)
very acurate with an armson rifled barrel and marbelizer balls
Conclusion:
If you modify it like this every one wold say LOL poor little man but when you start the shooting and giving 20 bps to a guy the are going to say WTF just happened?
Rating:
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, November 16th, 2007 at 8:39 am PST
i bought this gun from actionvillage for the amazing price of $47.90,and i am very happy with this purchase.
At first i was thinking, but its a cocker...Not any more, this is very easy to use and clean, not confusing at all.
Pros-
Accurate
Not a gas hog
The awesomeness
14' inch stock barrel
Cons-
Little Heavy
Shroud (can take off though)
feedneck
stock trigger frame
Conclusion:
Buy it, it is a very nice mechanical marker, plenty of updrades to keep you tinkering for a while
Rating:
9 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, October 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pm PST
Autococker Trilogy Pro SF (sold) - See my review.
Spyder Rodeo (use for woods)
Tippmann 98C (borrowed)
Other Spyders
Marker Setup:
Autococker Trilogy Tactical
HPA and CO2
Stock everything.
Spyder Fenix ACS
Stock clamping feedneck
VLocity JR loader
J&J Edge barrel kit
Bandit Bolts high flow valve
Alamo City Paintball Supply delrin valve cup seal
SPPS Snapdragon Magno-trigger
SPPS 50 g micro switch (splice type)
HPA and CO2
32 degrees spring kit
Spyder Rodeo
J & J Edge barrel kit
CO2
Zap / Archon Hopper gravity fed
32 Degrees spring kit
Evil Delrin Bolt / Stock bolt with venturi removed
Bandit high flow valve
Autococker Trilogy Pro SF (sold it)
ACI Griffin (sold it)
Syndicate Paradox ELE (sold it)
Recommended Upgrades:
Delrin Bolt (stock bolt way heavier than the delrin on on the Trilly Pro SF was)
Grips (stock ones really hard)
Strengths:
Quiet
Accurate
Inexpensive
Simple
Weaknesses:
Shiny parts
No offset feedneck
weak stock spring
Compact hinge frame kinda quirky size.
Review:
Oh. THIS is what Autococker fans are so happy with, even though I would call this an Autococker "Lite". I'm glad that I didn't get turned off from Autocockers from owning the Trilogy Pro SF. That was a beautiful, quiet, accurate, fast marker, but it did not "fit" me.
I have a little bit more perspective now that I had owned the Trilly Pro SF and the Tactical:
This marker is quiet. This marker chops less balls than the Pro SF without a force fed hopper because the bolt will only cycle as fast as you pull and release the trigger. No batteries required! The shroud helps protect the microline hoses and barbs for rougher woods play. The stock barrel is accurate even with CO2 - I shot ball on ball from 50 feet with 2 month old Nightmare paint. The tactical shroud allows me to use my red dot sight in the woods. The matte black paint job is nice for woods. The shroud helps protect your hand from being bitten by the rod. This marker is fairly compact.
A few minuses though. There are still some shiny parts - not ideal for woods play. The grips are hard - but can be replaced I assume. The shroud can be uncomfortable depending on how you hold the marker - but it can be removed.
Conclusion:
Nearly perfect for recball / woodsball play. If you play walk on against other players with electros, etc... whose marker exceeds their own skill you will be the guy / gal making everybody mad with your one-shot-gog shots.
Starting rating: 10
shiny parts - 1/2
no offset / non-removable feedneck - 1/2
Round up to a final rating: 9
Rating:
9 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, November 2nd, 2007 at 2:21 pm PST
Black Dragun 1
98 w/ Flatline
(New) WGP Trilogy Tactical with a Progressive 12" and a Revvy with an X-Board
Recommended Upgrades:
Needs an agitating hopper, a new barrel as with all stock guns, a new set of grips. Get rid of the shroud. HPA System.
Strengths:
Firm build, Strong firing action, QUIET,It's a 'Cocker.
Weaknesses:
Shroud is a little bulky. Bad grips for a WGP gun.
Review:
When I first started looking for a new gun I was completely confused. With only 200 bucks to spend, what could I really get? Back in the day (IE. 4 years ago.) Nothing. We could only get cheap Spyders and 98's. So when I saw a 'Cocker for under 200 I jumped, but figured it would be cheaply made. I ordered it anyway and anxiously waited for about 2 days. It finally got to my house and I took it out of the box and started playing with it in the back yard. The word 'cheap' should not be used to describe this marker. It fires solid, the action is smooth, the system is accurate and its every bit as 'Cocker' as the Karni. This marker, while not the best on the market, proves that you don't have to spend a fortune to have high quality. I'm honestly impressed. I can't wait to take it out and play a few rounds.
Conclusion:
Don't let the price decieve you. This gun is top dog in its price range. If you're looking for your first cocker, this is for you. I give it a 9.
Only similar in the sense that it's a paintball marker.
Since the release of the Model 98 I've been using it soley.
Marker Setup:
WGP Trilogy Tactical
Generic CP drop-forward
eVLution II loader
ORIGINAL! Model 98
Same loader as above
98 to Spyder adapter, generic Spyder threaded barrel salvaged off of a Dragun Fire.
Recommended Upgrades:
Drop forward is required.
Delrin bolt is strongly recommended as with all markers.
Electronic hopper suggested though not required.
Strengths:
Inexpensive
Standard autococker
Stock barrel accurate
Easy to clean and service
CO2 efficient
Build quality
Weaknesses:
Trigger frame
Need drop-forward
Feed neck
Upgrade limits
Review:
To kick this off I'm not very adventurous when it comes to my marker setup. I got the Model 98 some three months after they were released and have been using it ever since, up until about a month ago. I picked up the Trilogy Tactical from Sports Chalet for $150 deciding to give it a shot; "it's an autococker, how can you go wrong?" was my basic thought since everyone has told me that autocockers are some of the best operating markers you can get. Initial thoughts way back when is that autocockers are complicated and expensive, very unreliable, etc.. Expensive toys to show off. Are they? No. I was sorely mistaken.
The Trilogy is a great basic 'cocker that has looks and functionality. A great marker to introduce the new or intermediate player to autocockers. Right out of the box, it's a great shooter. Gasses up on co2 and is very efficient; played about 3 hours and put somewhere near a box and a half of paint through it before having to fill a 20oz tank.
It's a fairly standard autococker chassis, meaning you can upgrade anything internal; bolt, valve, springs. However externally, to save costs and to bring the marker to players at an acceptable price, some flexibility was compromised. These compromises include a built-in, non-replaceable 3-way. A non-replaceable "pressure" type of feed neck. I had to lightly sand my eVLution to get it to fit in nice and snug (but since I did that, it works great!). I *think* the front reg is replaceable but don't quote that. Standard cocker barrel threads.
Conclusion:
Final thoughts on this marker is that it is an outstanding product from WGP, a name long time in the industry synonymous with quality. I would recommend this to new or seasoned players alike keeping in mind that this is a "budget cocker".
+Price - Around $130-150
+Build quality
+Accurate out of the box
+Very gas efficient
+A lot of standard cocker upgrades
/ So/so type of rating is the trigger frame. It's acceptable, but I would have liked a full 2-finger frame which are a $90 upgrade.
-Needs drop-forward
-Non-replaceable feed neck requires hopper sanding; not a big deal in my book
-Maybe a little louder than some?
-No standard front block which means no 3-way upgrade or ram upgrade
