* Used by Team Infamous!
* 1.5" shorter than the Intimidator Alias Marker and other 2005 models
* 1.6 pounds (without a reg or barrel) which is 8 ounces lighter than the Alias
* FASTER - shorter bolt length has improved cycle time
* Completely new Ram and Poppet system - allows marker to operate at even lower pressures, virtually eliminating kick by using less force to move the ball. Lower pressure and lighter ram.
* New look to the LPR system
* Completely new ram bumper system. Ram cap now encloses the sleeve by threading onto it, verses into it like before
* Grip features an integrated rail system
* Accepts the same board and solenoid as existing intimidators
* Added functions on the LCD, including the option to modify your ramp starts and caps and multiple modes to meet various league standards
The Bob Long Infamous Intimidator is older, so while it may be available used and in a few cases new, it is not commonly available anymore.
Light, small, no kick, quieter than my other Timmys
Sharp edges on milling make it hard to clean and swab using a battle swab
A few initial impressions:
First impression upon picking the gun up is both the extremely light feel and the very good balance. I compared it side by side with my daughter's Ion and they are very similar in size and weight.
On the subject of loudness, I would certainly agree that mine is much quieter than my Ironman or Alias. It also is not as quiet as any of the enclosed bolt guns, like the DM's. However I have never been bothered by it one way or the other so take that for what it is worth. It shoots very consistent with the LPR set at 75 psi as recommended.
When shooting the gun, I was extremely surprised at the lack of kick. I am aware that other reviews have stated the gun still has kick. I believe this to be due to the reviewers only shooting with reballs. using paintballs, there is no kick. when switching to ramping, I expected there to be some rise of the barrel, but it shot extremely stable. It was very easy to put ball on ball, even during ramping. Once the trigger is properly adjusted, I was able to set the debounce to 2 and mbounce to 0 with no trigger bounce.
After getting back from the field, I stripped it down and re-greased everything and cleaned it from head to toe. It is critical to be familiar with the new manual when re-assembling the new internal valving including the new design cup seal/poppet. I also found it nearly impossible to use a Redz battle swab to clean out the gun as the pointed portion around the back area of the bolt snags miserably. This was solved easily by using a pull though instead.
I do find the shortened body does take a bit of getting used to when shooting. When I get in a tucked position with a 45/45 tank on, the bolt seems to only be about 2 inches from my mask. Big change from the more stretched out feeling of my Ironman ( which I have been using the most up 'til now). On another side of the compact feel of the gun overall, I found the trigger guard to have plenty of space for my fingers to comfortably walk the trigger with gloves on when shooting in Semi. I also found the much lighter feel of the gun to seem a bit unbalanced and back heavy when using a 68/4500 and the Stiffi barrel on. That being said, I did find it to have a perfectly balanced feel with the 45/4500 on it. Makes me want to replace my Reloader B with a lighter hopper. Feels featherweight when trying to break for the 50.
I am just amazed at the improvement in this gun. One of the comments I heard initially was that this was like all the other Timmys but without kick (paraphrased). Well since I have always loved the way my other Timmys have worked, I would like to say that this latest improvement or refinement has just made them that much better.
I would like to add one comment on the grip frame. Early on, Ripper Machinist had to defend the hook on the bottom for the built in rail. Once I put my CP Sling Blade on, I found the grip to be much more comfortable than either my Alias or the 2k5 frame on my Ironman. It is certainly the most comfortable gun to hold and shoot that I have owned. My thanks to all those involved in the design and production as I truly love this gun.
If you can afford this gun, I would recommend it without any reservations. To date, this is the best Bob Long product I have owned.
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion on the comments page.
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2k5 timmys, dm6/5/4/proto, egos, all angels, shockers, ions, everything, like seriously everything...
well i tested it with a 72/4500, halo, and stock everything else
i dont know exactly whats out for the 06 timmys
Smaller than 2k5s
Lighter than 2k5s
Well I tested out the 2k6 timmys at world cup. I shot Bob Long's personal 2k6 as well. I shot them with reballs or lazerballs, I dont know exactly which one. Anyway, I was very dissapointed. They do feel lighter and smaller than the previous timmys. The three 2k6 timmys i shot, had very bad dropoff. We tried multiple tanks on them, but they still had REALLY bad dropoff (im talking like, start shooting, and have 2 out of 6 drop off three feet in front of you, or sometimes even not come out of the barrel) This could have been a quick fix with the LPR I think, with my knowledge of timmys, but what suprised me, was that all three of these 2k6 timmys did the exact same thing. Also, there was actually more kick than a properly tuned 2k5 timmy on every singe 2k6 timmy. This suprised me as I had been tricked into thinking they had less kick, but no, I assure you, the 2k6's that I shot had more kick than many of the 2k5's ive shot. The accuracy was very good, except for the 2 out of 6 that would drop off like mad. The gun is fast, but just as fast as your fingers, except with the 2k6s, they started running away nomatter how we adjusted the triggers (as in I would start shooting it, let go, and it would still be shooting) but im sure this could be fixed. They were all very bouncy though, but all timmys are unless properly adjusted. The boards seemed good but I only shot the timmys in semi. They looked very nice, but the back is pretty sharp and I almost cut myself. The milling was all flawless as was the anno. As for the trigger, I didnt like it at all, but thats just my personal preference. It was hard to walk on I felt, but still, it was very fast due to the insane amount of bounce on the guns. The 2k6's that I shot really, really did not impress me, but I may have gotten 3 duds? Seems unusual but hey, you never know. I along with lots of other people who shot the new line, seemed to have felt there was much more kick than was expected (not like spyder kick or anything but not even close to as smooth as a dm) They need to work the bugs out of the 2k6s before I would ever buy one. My advice is to try and shoot one if you can to see for yourself.
This products performance really did not impress me and was nowhere near up to par with the new DM6 that came out at cup. For the money, you should be getting alot more than what I shot. Look around at other choices before you buy one of these.... Then again I may have gotten 3 bad ones, but I am not too sure on that. That was my experience with the 2k6s
Id give it a 9 for milling/ compact size/ anno job
Id give it a 1 for dropoff
Id give it a 8 for accuracy
Id give it a 3 for the bounciness
Id give it a 7 for the feel (because of the trigger)
Id give the price (1300) to performance a 5 because for 1300, there are much nicer guns (both shooting wise and cost wise) on the market in my opinion
and overall that averages out to be a 5.5 and since it dissapointed me greaty due to all the hype that it was given, ill give it a 5 (since I cant give it a 5.5)
5 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, December 15th, 2005 at 10:55 am PST
Alias Timmy (also only tested). Maybe Matrices(Dye/Proto).
Dust Black 05 Proto Matrix, Orange CF bolt, Dye LP bolt cap, CCM no pro, J&J edge barrel kit, Trinity push-button on/off
A VERY fast hopper, Reloader BII!
Smaller & lighter than any Timmy I have touched.
The body where the bolt sticks out is very sharp.
Tested it at the Bob Long test area with Lazer Balls (obviously, no one chopped). Lots of modes on the stock board. Most were trying it with some kind of ramping. I had the guy running the tent put it on straight semi-auto. Well, I have never EVER, picked up a marker and shot a straight rope of paint that fast. No acclimation necessary, and I am not a kid. Feel is excellent, the stock trigger has a reverse wave where the bottom sticks out further than the top. Some might not like it, however, I am now looking for a trigger like it for my Proto. Most of the rope I laid out was ball-on-ball. My kid has fast fingers and his mouth dropped open. He still thinks that it is my perfect marker. Oh, well, $1300 can't be dropped at the drop of a hat, you know.
My only real complaint is the razor sharp milling at the back of the body that houses the bolt. I actually punctured my thumb by tapping the marker on the back of my hand, trying to remove the hammer. However, compared to the 2k5 timmy, it is much smaller/lighter. Less moving mass means less kick!
Once I have a spare $1300 saved, I will be buying a gloss black w/ blue highlights, 06 Infamous Intmidator.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, November 2nd, 2005 at 11:18 pm PST