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Kingman Spyder MR1 Reviews
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Number of Reviews: |
237 |
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Average Rating: |
8.7 / 10 |
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Manufacturer Website: |
Click here |
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Suggested Retail Price: |
$90 |
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| The MR1 will take a beating and keep on firing! The slide out pull pin, field strippable bolt, and full-length stock (optional) make the MR1 an easily operated and highly accurate scenario marker with military resilience and stability. This semi-auto marker won't rust even when you're trekking through the wettest terrain, and you?ll never need to worry about batteries because there aren?t any electronic parts! |
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| The Kingman Spyder MR1 is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used. |
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Period of
Product Use: |
Less than a month |
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Rental Tippmann 98s - they varied in condition. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR1
Trinity MR series clamping feed neck
Cut down stock
Reshaped trigger and rear trigger stop
HPA
14" J&J ceramic barrel |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Trinity MR series clamping feed neck first and foremost. Everything else is optional/personal preference. |
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| Strengths: |
Solid
Easy to strip and reassemble
Value for money |
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| Weaknesses: |
Nothing that cannot be readily fixed |
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| Review: |
After reading the reviews here, I decided to get a Spyder MR1 as I determined that its strengths suited my style of play and its reported “weaknesses” were either irrelevant or easily fixed. The only thing I could see being a major issue was the notoriously flimsy feed neck, which would have to be replaced at the earliest opportunity.
I got a second hand MR1 by online auction and the seller, for a few more dollars, included a basic gravity-fed loader, 12oz CO2 tank and a Trinity clamping feed neck. Before it even arrived, I won another auction for a remote to use as an expansion chamber. This gave me marker, tank, loader, upgraded feed neck and remote for less than the cost of a brand new “naked” MR1.
The marker duly arrived and I was not in the least disappointed. It was certainly solidly constructed – I’ve owned shotguns that don’t feel as solid – and it was fairly weighty but not excessive, IMO. Using a remote would drop the weight significantly. Oh, lucky me, I just happen to have one...
The Trinity feed neck was very solid and firmly locked the loader in perfect alignment with the body of the marker. I’d heartily recommend this upgrade over any number of spare plastic elbows.
A look down the business end with the barrel removed gave a clear view of the end of the bolt and the groove to accommodate the ball detent. It was evident that turning the bolt upside down would turn the bolt into a ruthlessly efficient detent-shearing guillotine – no wonder mechanically-inept people have complained about the detent being chopped off. I cocked the marker and felt the detent – it seemed in good condition.
I field-stripped and reassembled it and it is as easy as others have attested – and I made sure I put the bolt in the right way up! With a bit of practice, stripping, cleaning and reassembling the marker would not take long at all.
Many people have complained about the trigger, claiming it’s too hard and has an excessively long draw – and I’ve got to wonder: “Compared with what? An e-trigger?”
I found the trigger pull fairly light compared with real, bullet-firin’, firearms and the draw length was not excessive – it had no slack travel at all, just a short pull against moderate resistance before a sudden break. The after-travel was not far either but could be a little shorter – a stop would fix that and is easy enough to install.
I must admit there is quite a bit of side-play on the trigger but, again, that’s easy enough to fix with a couple of thin washers or metal shims.
I’m not joking when I say I have used real firearms with worse triggers – miles of slack play followed by a long heavy pull and an awful break.
The only thing I would change about the trigger – and this is purely “personal preference” – is to cut off the lower part of the trigger to make it more like a rifle trigger. As I said: personal preference – I prefer to use only the index finger on the trigger and the long trigger interferes with my ability to wrap my middle finger around the grip.
The stock: As others have said: cut the top bar off. Using the unmodified stock, I couldn’t sight the marker without a mask on, let alone with. It was fine after I cut the top bar off – around half an hour’s work by the time I smoothed it up with a file to get rid of rough edges and make it look like it was designed that way.
Using the marker:
First time I took it out (stock barrel) I had absolutely no chops and it performed faultlessly. I'm not a pray-'n'-spray shooter, I prefer to stalk, shoot a few times and relocate. I have no need for ultra-fast rates of fire so the MR1 fires fast enough to suit my needs.
I had a lot of barrel breaks but the PMI Premium paint I’d bought was heavily dimpled and many of the balls did not look spherical – even to something as imprecise as a human eye.
I later set up a target and fired off a number of balls of Elixir without a single break. So let’s just put the barrel breaks down to a bad batch of paint. The Elixir is not a good match for the stock bore (too small, rolls out unimpeded) so its accuracy wasn’t very consistent – three off the target entirely and the rest in a 30cm (1 foot) group at approx 15 metres. The PMI premium is a closer match for the stock bore but the only ones I have are dimpled and/or not spherical.
UPDATE: Took it back out on the field using the Elixir paint and loosed off well over a hundred rounds with no barrel-breaks or chops at all. The accuracy was very consistent even using CO2 and paint that's a bit small for the bore. It was a faster paced game and I had to lay down cover fire and suppressive fire a couple of times - it fired fast enough for the task at hand.
UPDATE 2: Finally made up a rear stop for the trigger - basically a short length of metal down inside the trigger spring to prevent the spring from being compressed all the way. I cut the head off a four-inch nail then cut off a short length of the shaft to make the stop. I didn't measure - just patiently filed it down until the trigger would travel back far enough to release the bolt and a little further. It wound up about 2/3 the length of the uncompressed trigger spring.
While I had the trigger out, I cut off the bottom of the trigger to make it a single finger trigger then smoothed it with the file - as mentioned above, this is a purely "personal preference" sort of mod.
Sadly I did not have a thin-enough washer to fix up the side play.of the trigger so left that for another time.
Once the marker was reassembled with the rear stop in place, I tried a quick rapid fire - the shorter travel made for some really quick shooting comparable with letting rip as fast as possible (forget accuracy) with a .22 semi-automatic rifle. |
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| Conclusion: |
Ultimately, it’s all about what you want in a marker – which is dependent on how you play. The MR1 suits me fine in a fairly unmodified state, others may want faster rates of fire that warrant e-triggers and electric loaders. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Saturday, November 21st, 2009 at 2:11 am PST |
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Period of
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1 year |
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Victor 2, Tippmann 98 custom |
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| Marker Setup: |
Spyder MR1, 6 position sniper stock, Rap4 22" Super Sniper Barrel, Powerline scope |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
a new barrel i guess (definently not neccessary)
cut the top off the stock. |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate
Very Durable
Gas efficient
battle ready straight out of the box |
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| Weaknesses: |
Uh... i've heard the elbow is weak, never had that problem. |
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| Review: |
Let's see... This gun is my best friend. EXTREMELY durable, i tripped and fell on it last game and it worked just like new. i've never had a ball break, this gun is CRAZY accurate even with the stock barrel. i put an aftermarket barrel on it and ended up putting the stock one back on. (eventually i got a barrel off Rap4, which is better.) my first game with using this gun i was named Most Valuable player (out of 250 people) by the general at a scenario game and there were SPONSORED players there decked out with all the best and most expensive setups. one game the bolts on the trigger came loose but i tightened them and haven't had the problem since. |
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| Conclusion: |
This gun is amazing and with the price tag ($100) you absolutely WILL NOT find a better deal. get this gun now. i'd say it was a 9 because there are better guns out there. but to make up for moron tippmann fanboys posting on here giving it a 1. i'm gonna give it a 10. peace. |
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| Rating: |
| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Tuesday, September 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm PST |
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Period of
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| 3 months | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
1 year |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippman 98 Custom |
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| Marker Setup: |
Nothing new, but I'm getting my 20" barrel shipped right now, when I get a chance to test it, I'll post an update/ |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Barrel, Turn the power up (mine came out of the box at 100 fps), maybe a new stock, and you will almost certinaly want a better sight. |
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| Strengths: |
Looks good, acuracte, feels good, stock out of the box, never chops, Original look. |
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| Weaknesses: |
Distance, Power, Screw come undone to easily. |
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| Review: |
I love this gun. I have been using around twice a month and normally put about a thousand rounds throught it every day I play and I have never had one break even though I use the cheapest paint available. It has a stock right out of the box which I think is awesome, because I haven't seen any other guns there aren't some sort of special package. It's one of the cheapest non-off brand guns on the market.
The Spyder MR1 is widely known as the Tippman 98 Customs biggest competetor. Well, I've used both and I can tell you that the MR1 is not on the same level as the Tippman 98 Custom, it is on a much higher level. The Tippman has a very crappy barrel out of the box, no stock, and is used by EVERYONE... Not to mention it just doesn't shoot as well. The only place the 98 Custom beats the MR1 is distance. |
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| Conclusion: |
The MR1 is a great woodsball or speedball gun. It looks awesome, shoots awesome and cleans easily. But I do have to take a point off for distance and the screws coming undone to easily. But still gets a really good review from me. |
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Period of
Product Use: |
1 year |
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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This gun is universal, and can be upgraded to fit other catagories.
In other word, its its own gun. |
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| Marker Setup: |
Primary:
Tippmann US Army Alpha Black Tactical w/
Archon's NEW Revolutionary 200 Round Gravity fed hopper,
20oz remote line CO2 NXe 4+1
Secondary:
Overlord Rx Pistol w/ laser sight
Second Primary:
Custom made P90 prototype |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Depends on your position
Sniper= short range scope, longer barrel, suitable stock
Infantry= the handle that fits MR1's w/ sight rail, red dot scope, remote line.
Speed ball= Auto hopper, drop foward |
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| Strengths: |
Durable
Accurate
Feel
Reliable
Good for a cheap gun |
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| Weaknesses: |
Needs some sort of upgrade to suit you
Cheap elbow
A Little loud |
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| Review: |
First Looks and Feel
Right out of the box it seams to be a durable gun for the price.
It fits nice in ones hand.
For an average player or a starter gun this is a very good buy.
Firing the gun
It shoots fairly accurate if you use decent paint.
It doesnt chop balls (w/ decent paint)
It's pretty good on CO2 it's the the air hog others make it out to be
On the other hand it is a little loud like others make it out to be.
On the field
The gun itself is reliable
It may not be the fastest gun, but it isn't the slowest either.
If one has a remote line this gun can be decent in maneuvering on the field
Cleaning and maintenance
This gun is a good gun to learn on.
Easy and quick to clean |
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| Conclusion: |
With upgrades avaible this gun can be a great gun for the average or starter player.
Like any gun its a good idea to go to a local sporting good store and hold it, get a feel for it, and see if it fits you.
Overall it is a good gun for the price.
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Products Used: |
Tippman 98 custom
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Spyder MR1
Detachable stock
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
-Elbow
-Stock |
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| Strengths: |
VERY TANK!
reliable
very good accuaracy
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Pretty loud
CRAP elbow
Not very upgradable |
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| Review: |
I have not even owned this gun a week now and i LOVE it. I reccomend it over a tippman anyday. Tippman is all i used for 5 years now im all for the spyder! It is cheaper and so much better in MANY ways! The accuarcy is amazing. It is VERY WELL built. Strong as a steel block and just plain feels good while holding it. NOW THATS A TRU PAINTBALL GUN! |
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| Conclusion: |
If you are looking for a solid, reliable and accurate marker without breaking your bank, look no further. This marker has everything you need, with easy maintenance and plenty of options. This bad boy can easily keep up with the Tippman's and is a viable alternative if you are looking for a tough woodsball marker. Just make sure to UPGRADE THAT ELBOW. |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 3 of 5 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
Less than a month |
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Similar
Products Used: |
TIPMANN 98, SPYDER VICTOR, SPYDER TL-X, TIPMANN A5,TAC 5 RECON, |
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| Marker Setup: |
SPYDER MR1, WITH SIGH RAIL, ALSO LASER SIGHT! |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
ELBOW FEED BREAKS EASILY, AND THE BARREL NOT THAT ACCURATE! |
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Really though, and looks really cool. works in all weather and all terrain.. |
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Marker is kind of heavy, and the cocking bolt replace it! |
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This marker is really though and accurate. if you need a really good woodsball marker then you know what marker to get with a lot of upgrades and the new anti chop technology this marker is really great and does your needs!! specially if you want a woodsball marker then you know that this is gonna be the one you want. When ever me and my friend go paintballing i always win because i have the good marker the spyder mr1! with eyes and ACT. ANTI CHOP TECHNOLOGY!!! |
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| Conclusion: |
So know you know if you want a really good and reliable paintball maker then you know what to get the spyder mr1! with the anti chop technology it beats the cra* out of the tippman 98! so you know which marker to get! |
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Period of
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| Less than a month | 2 of 2 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
2 years |
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Products Used: |
Tippmann 98c |
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Kingman Spyder Mr1
Dye Sticky Grips
Clear O-Rings
J&J 16" Ceramic Barrel
Stock 12" barrel
Vlocity E hopper |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
New Triggers it's plasic kind of |
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| Strengths: |
Durable
Strong
Fast |
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| Weaknesses: |
Elbow Feedneck
If you adjust your velocity it turns the bottom pin
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I bought this gun off of Ebay brand new and I loved it right away. This gun shoots really accurately right out of the box. The only bad thing is it's kind of loud. So if you want a better sound to this gun, don't use CO2 or the stock barrel. Use Air and a 16" J&J ceramic barrel. I can barely hear it when I shoot it by my self.
It's very durable. I fell on it because I was running a way in a speed ball Tourny with my friends. And this was my back up. I screwed up my Ion Xe and had to forfeit that round. I went to grab my MR1 and dropped it in the mud. I sqweeged it out and it works better than it did out of the box. I used it for a while. Now I sold my Xe to buy an A5 so i can have two woodsball guns. |
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This gun is still a great gun even though its 2009. Its very durable and can take any hit. BUY IT!! |
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Period of
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| 1 year | 2 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
More than 5 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
tippmann 98 custom |
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Tippmann 98 custom
Custom Products barrel
Expansion Chamber
Response Trigger
Halo sound activated loader
Medal car stock |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
not a lot of upgrades to choose from. upgrade the barrel |
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| Strengths: |
Durable
Awesome looking
Range and accuracy good for the price
Comfortable |
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| Weaknesses: |
Slow
Not alot of upgrades for it |
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| Review: |
I bought the mr1 for 80 bucks. When i first fired the marker i was not expecting a whole lot because its so cheap but, i was shocked how well it fired. It was accurate and had good range. The only down side for the mr1 is that you cant buy upgrades for it. I suggest upgrading the barrel. If you are new at paintball i recommend this gun. Or you could just wait and save 50 more dollars and get a 98 custom. |
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Good gun for the price. Good back up. Great for starters |
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Period of
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| 2 years | 6 of 6 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
Experience: |
4 years |
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Products Used: |
PMI R6, Tippmann 98 Custom, Spyder Extra, Thundercat, 1999 Angel *unsure of model*, PMI Black Maxx, Veiwloader Triad, Mostly lower end markers |
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Kingman Spyder MR1 - PMI Razzor barrel, 30'' Cable Squeege, PMI gravity feed hopper, 47Cu 3kPSI HPA Air tank (Pure Energy), V-Force Anti-Fog Goggles, Cheap one peice foggy elbow that's been painted partially, old Military Bipod |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Barrel, Electric hopper, Air tank, maybe a bipod for you snipers, possibly an E-trigger for back players |
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| Strengths: |
Accurate, Intimidating, Quick shooting, easy to clean, durable, Not very shiny, Included stock |
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| Weaknesses: |
Heavy , loud, stock gets annoying/in the way sometimes, Stock feels a little cheap |
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| Review: |
Got this gun off of actionvillage new when they first came out. Thought they were awesome. I've been playing woodsball for a few years, and I loved this gun for it. It scares the crap out of my friends when they're downrange and i'm shooting out them. They say it sounds like a cannon.
Now, I haven't had any problems with gas leaks or anything, but occasionally it will hiss a little when pressurizing. This is normal for me. I've recently played a few games with an Air tank, and I was amazed. I get consistiant shots up untill the tank goes empty, then you just have to account for ball drop.
Accuracy - A lot of people complain about this thing being innaccurate. It should be common knowledge that if you use higher end paint, i'm talking Marbalizers here, that it will shoot well. I had been using WalFart's Big Ball paint for a while, but decided to try something a bit better. I was amazed. All I had to account for, wind and all, was ball drop. When used with air, this thing amazes. I have influenced quite a few people with the durablity/accuracy of this gun. Even my buddy with an Angel. However, the stock hopper setup will not feed as fast as this gun will shoot, and as soon as you chop a ball, you're losing major accuracy with a stock barrel. But when you're using air, you dont have to worry about the C02 freezing the balls, then shattering them when they fire before they exit the barrel. Air goes highly reccomended by me.
Noise - This gun is loud. Indimidating, but loud either way. If you're using Air, you don't have to worry about that giveaway C02 cloud, so then you're just left with the noise. If you are a quiet person in the woods, you'll do just fine with this gun.
Weight - Yeah, no way around it, this gun weighs a LOT. My full setup, which includes an old military bipod and an 47cu steel air tank, weighs around 10lbs. Now, there is a bonus to this. Once you can haul this gun around for hours on end, then hey, guess what! You can move a lot faster with any other gun. So it's a 50/50 deal.
Durability - I have dropped this gun a few times, but I generally take good care of it. It's held up just fine, but the stock does feel rather cheap, and the grip has been peeling away a little. I attacked it with sandpaper, and fixed that however.
Visibility - This gun is rather hard to see in the woods. It has an anodized matte black surface, which makes it diffuse the sunlight, instead of those shiny as hell guns. Much easier for sniping, and sneaking up on people when it's sunny.
The sight rail is rather useless, at least I've never found a use for it. But then again, if you honestly think you need a friggin scope on your gun, you're in the wrong sport. They're useless in paintball.
Carry a good squeegee, some pods, and a nice fog-proof mask, and you'll be fine with this gun. |
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This is an awesome beginner's gun, and possibly a mid-level player's gun of choice. You can upgrade it with an E-trigger, and an ACS bolt, but if you're a good shot, you don't need these unless you're using crappy paint, and in that case, you shouldn't be playing anyways. It's an all around good gun, but it is a little loud, and it does weight a bit, but that can't be helped sometimes. |
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Period of
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2 years |
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Paintball
Experience: |
3 years |
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Similar
Products Used: |
Tippmann 98 custom, |
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Spyder AMG, 16" Empire Twister |
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Recommended
Upgrades: |
Possibly a barrel? Depends. |
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| Strengths: |
Nice scenario gun
Not heavy
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The sight rail is too small to put most scopes on. |
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| Review: |
I bought the MR1 about 3 years ago and have to say I am pleased with this gun. It is a very durable gun, doesn't chop, and has some pretty good looks to it. I put a MR sight rail on mine so that I could put a red dot on it because the sight rail is too small to put most scopes or anything like that on it. |
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I would recomend this gun. It is a very durable gun. I am giving it an 8 rating because of the sight rail. Other than that it is a very nice gun. |
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