This stock is a very nice addition to a scenario paintball marker or to someone who likes the real gun feel. It makes shooting a lot more stable because you can just rest it on your shoulder. The sling that comes with it is helpful, but I found that it got in the way. Howerver, if you drop the gun, the sling saves its life. However, one that that made me mad is the fact that it brought my velocity down about 40 fps. Where I usually play, the maximum velocity is 290 fps. I am now shooting no more than 250. It is nice not to have to worry about it being too high, but when the velocity is this low, the balls drop too soon..
I screwed around with the velocity and found a easy way to bring my velocity back up to normal. I totally unscrewed the knob on the back. Once you pull it out, there is a long piece of plastic. I took a small o-ring and put it where the piece of plastic goes into the knob. I screwed the knob back into the stock and shot the gun. It made a huge difference in bringing my velocity back up.
I would say to buy this if you like the feel of a real gun or like scenario play.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, October 28th, 2007 at 5:53 pm PST
32 Degrees Icon-X (Black)
CP Flame drop-forward in black
UFD Thick Coiled Remote with QD & Slide Check
Hittmann adj. stock w/sling
14" Tru-Flight barrel with Foam front barrel grip
Future upgrades: AK mag 6-stage expansion chamber
Easy to carry
Sturdy and rugged
Directions it comes with is vague
Fitment needs work
Movement is free and light with the stock. Makes movement in running and ducking for cover easy to do especially if you're playing recball. The stock adjustment is a cool feature especially when my son and nephew had a chance to use it. In my opinion, this is worth it if you love the scenario look to your Spyder or Icon marker. The only downfall (which does not apply to my marker) is that you can't use it with markers with a beaver tail such as the Spyder: Flash, Avant, or Rodeo.
For something that's under $50 it was really a great investment. If you want to add the scenario look to your Spyder or Icon (Spyder clone) then this is the product for you. I would recommend that you add a remote though to totally go mobile and lightweight.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, March 10th, 2007 at 6:57 pm PST
I first picked up a Sypder MR1 almost a year ago as a gift for someone, and I was so impressed with its value, I got one for myself as a backup marker. Later, I got another as a "guest gun". Wanting to make their introduction to paintball as fun and easy as possible, I set up the guest MR1 for friends to use with the intention of delivering improved performance while keeping operation and in-field maintenance as simple as possible. When I saw the Hittmann Spyder car-stock with its tool-free RVA, I saw a chance to improve the functionality of an already fine basic marker while reducing the hassle of dialing it in at the chronograph for new players.
As a stock for my MR1, the Hittmann car-stock is superb. It adjusts several inches in length, from slightly longer than the included fixed-length skeleton stock, which requires an Allen key to add or remove when you get to the field or pack up at the end of the day, down to a fully collapsed position that leaves ample room for movement tight quarters behind a bunker. It is sturdy and easy to adjust, and it doesn't ever slip from notch to notch. Installation couldn't be easier; you just pull the strip pin fron the striker tube of the MR1, pop out the plug that holds the stock RVA, replace it with the Hittmann stock, and push the pin back in. Ten seconds, and you're ready to rock mil-sim style!
What I didn't notice until several months after I had used the stock, when installing a new one on a second MR1 guest gun, is that the rear velocity adjuster (RVA) doesn't actually work to preload the striker spring! It drives the rod that replaces the spring guide deeper into the striker tube when you screw down the knob, but it doesn't actually move the plunger that compresses the spring the way the stock RVA in the MR1 does! I couldn't believe it!
Fortunately, with some minor modifications and a cheap added part from my local hardware store, I rigged the thumb-screw RVA on the stock to work the way it should. I removed the long plunger rod that came with the stock and cut an length of steel rod to the same approximate length. Then I measured the length of the striker spring guide on the original RVA plug from my MR1 and cut the rod on the Hittman's plunger to the same length. Using the shortened plunger rod from the Hittmann stock as the new spring guide for the striker. I inserted the steel rod through the hollow center channel of the stock, so that turning the RVA thumb-screw at the back pushed the steel rod down through the stock, which, in turn, pushed the plunger/spring guide further into the striker tube and preloaded the striker spring. This allows you to increase your muzzle velocity the way a good RVA ought to.
As a stock, the Hittmann is well made and practical. However, I would not by this product at the full list price of over $50. It can be found online for under $50, and the last one I got was only $39. Even though it's a nice stock, it's a shame that APP, which makes good products, released this one with an obvious critical flaw in the RVA mechanism. If it weren't for that, I'd rate this stock a 9+, but I have to give it a 7, up to an 8 once you perform the DIY mods necessary to adjust your muzzle velocity.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, February 21st, 2007 at 9:17 pm PST
-Spyder E99 avant
-16 inch smart parts progressive barrel
-Lapco Red dot site
I bought this stock after looking for somthing to make my gun more scenerio type. I saw this and thought what the heck. Only 50$. When i received this the instructions were very blah. Hard to understand but i eventually worked it out. No problem.When i tryed to put it on my spyder E99 avant, i relized that it would not fit because the bolt would interfer with it. So i went into my garage and shaved about 3/8 of the bolt.[ its only the stock bolt] Then the stock fit fine.
Gives gun great feel
very strong, wont break
Has Velocity knob on back
Instructions very homemade
Does not fit most spyders, But can be changed easily
I noticed that it lowerd my velocity
Over all. If your looking for a stock, This is the one to buy. Very strong, and practical to install. Not bad for 50$ . I gave it a 8 because i had to modify my gun for it. And nothing can be perfect
Spyder Fenix ACS 05 ,16" j@j ,72/3000,Evo with z board , Hittmann stock,and t board.
Makes marker feel steady when shooting.
Part of it is plastic.
I play alot of scenario ball and wanted my marker to follow suite and so i went searching for a stock for a spyder that was adjustable and had a nice look. when i found this for a good price i was pleased(50 bucks). I instantly ordered one and installed it right away. I felt pleased how it look and how it steadied my shot.
All in all it is a good upgrade if you want to give your spyder that scenario look and feel.