c02 or hpa compatible for 12grams of constant
Comes with a double trigger???
there is chrome on it
As other have stated the cocking rod is a bit tight at first but that is a non issue as you should strip and relube the gun as soon as you get it.
Combined with the scepter kit using a .684 and hpa this is the most accurate marker i have ever shot. No phantom even comes close (now if you could put a scepter or a matchstick on a phantom it would be a different story)
I cannot comment on the stock barrel because i just threw it into my spare box as soon as i got it.
One thing to note though. I hate steel hose so i went to remove the hose from the reg and replace it with a 90* swivel and it seems that the hose is locktited into the reg.
I will be replacing the bolt, reg, trigger frame, and pump handle soon. but awesome marker
If you want to start pump and dont want to get a phantom get this. Then if you like it you can upgrade it.
My favorite gun ..........first day i played with it is shot sooooo straight. very good gun paid 160 brand new (sponsored by store) well worth the 250. out of the box it shoots very good and i expect it to get better as i shoot it more. I put an orracle bolt in it and plan on getting a CP reg as well.
Outkast Sniper ll, BE 50 rd hopper, CP Two piece barrel
barrel kit, trigger frame
-Its and autococker(explained in review)
-smooth pump kit
I bought this gun off pbgear because I didn't want to go through all the fuss of getting a used one on ebay and then trying to get different parts here and there for it to work. This is not a good deal for this gun, but it is definitely not expensive. But this is also one of the only brand spankin new sniper ll's you can buy, and I for one, like my guns to be new.
The Outkast was a good mech cocker when it was out and it is good converted to a pump also. It has all of the qualities of any other autococker converted with a pump kit; efficient, accurate, and definitely reliable. the stock reg is acceptable, it is not needed to go out and get a new one right away, but of course their are better. The barrel is also decent. Its a two piece, so that's sorta a plus.
I have only two grievances with this gun:
1. The barrel. It is a large bore size which, if you know anything about autocockers, is bad. So unless you shoot large paint you will need to buy a barrel kit or a smaller bore size barrel.
2. The trigger frame. Now I personally prefer a single trigger, but all that aside, I still do not like the frame, it is also sharp down at the bottom of the trigger.
Also, there is a very tiny problem that needs to be addressed. A few others and myself have had this same problem. When the gun first comes, there is a chance that the cocking rod will be in VERY tight. Simply get some pliers and a strong buddy and untwist the rod with brute strength, applying the pliers to the cocking rod itself, not the knob at the end. Again, this is not a serious problem at all and should not change your mind on buying the gun.
This is a good gun. Although it is no where near and steal of a deal, your not getting robbed by the price either. It performs great, may improve your skills, and will turn heads. I am dissmissing the trigger frame as a personal preferance and giving this gun a 9.
secondary for turney use mainly
bob long ripper 2 intimidator
Double finger hinge trigger
I recenly purchased this fine marker from a local retailer and must say i am very impressed. The stock reg and barrel are fine but if you use this marker as your primary marker or you are a pump fanatic they need to be replaced you will notice a major difference over the crono and more importantly on the field.Also why do you need a double finger hinge trigger on a pump that plus the asa weight just under 2 lbs. seriously i weighed it. Once these minor detailes were taken care of this became the best pump marker that i have ever used.
Ill give it a 9 out of 10 only because of the reg. changing the barrel is just a standard with every gun ive ever owned with the exception of my phantom and sl-68
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, November 7th, 2006 at 11:04 pm PST
WGP Outkast Sniper II
16" Two piece CP Barrel
ADCO Red Dot Sight
70ci Crossfire Hp tank
Bolt - New Bolt around 23 buck, do not need Delrin as it is a pump.
Barrel - stock is shocking at range
Cost (250) for stock pump.
Hard to convert
The Outkast Sniper II is a fairly standard and completely stock pump marker from WGP. It comes with a Lacking barrel, and a poor regulator, and a pretty lame bolt. I actually expected better from WGP for a Gun that costs more than the Pro-stock.
However, this gun performance wise if pretty good. First thing to do with any cocker is give it some oil, and lube the bolt (as it is metal not delrin). this marker does not come ready to fire. You will have to adjust the velocity, and do not hold the pump handle when firing, because it has a nasty habit of blowing back, and if it does not blow back, it shoots inaccurately.
Once i zeroed the red dot on this baby, i was getting groups firing from a rested poisition of less than one inch in deviation, at roughly 25-30 yards with the CP barrel; 2-3 inches with the stock barrel. The cp barrel is also alot less noisy. The loudest sound the gun makes, when set up correctly and fired properly, it the cocking it's self.
I have owned few cockers, and still own two, one is my race gun. They are superbly built machines, and bost high ammounts of accuracy. For the player who has this gun in mind, I would reccomend you stick to scenario ball, or woodsball, and get your self a ghillie suit and just snipe because of the accuracy and consistancy. Being a cocker, it is fairly gas efficient as well.
Over all, i would give this gun a 7 from 10 for how much you pay againts what you get. In consitancy i would give this cocker a 9 out of 10, for the consitant accuracy with only slight deviation. In the ups categorey, an 8 from 10 because autococker parts a disappearing from the market. And finally a 9 out of 10 on looks, because she is a sweet looking beast. If you know cockers, a good gun for you. If you are new, just buy a semi-spyder of some kind, because chances are this gun will frustrate you.
A new barrel isnt really needed, but will help. A pocket hopper and 3.5 oz tank to keep it light.
-Accurate stock barrel
-Lighter than alot of guns
-Hard to convert to stock class
-Heavier than most pumps
This gun shoots great. The stock barrel suprised me. It was alot better than I expected. With this gun you don't HAVE to to buy a after market barrel right away. SO far i've only tested it for about 40 feet. I was getting ball on ball accuracy with my Jr3 barrel, and Basically the same with the stock barrel. This is obviously a pump ment for speedball. For those out to try stock class, this is not the gun for you. Its also very easy to maintain.
I'm going to the feild next weekend and will update then.
A great gun for new and old pumpers. The price might be a little steep when you could convert an old cocker with a kit, but then again, this isn't an old cocker.