1. Inline poppet valve design. ( not a spool valve)
2. Internal LPR design
3. Manifold mounted solenoid. ( no hoses)
4. Thin ergonomic grip frame.
6. 4 eye operation compatible. ( 30 bps can be acheived with 4 eyes. 4 eye system sold as an upgrade)
7. No rise wedge feed.
8. Swivel top regulator. ( fitting can be rotated to any position)
The Bob Long Marq 6 is newer, so it should be commonly available, both new and used.
new barrel. pillow bolt. I got a dye ultralight on mine
Heavier than other guns in its class
will explain other things in review
Pros: This gun is incredibly smooth. I was really impressed with how smooth and snappy it was. It came with a dye ultralight for me so i don't know how the stock barrel is but I was geting +-2 on the chrono and there is practically no kick with this gun. It's fast too, but every gun I've had since my A4 fly has been fast.
You don't really have to pay too much attention to this gun. I would lube the bolt which takes about 15 minutes once every 2 months or so and not worry about it again. I never broke orings or got any leaks.
The thing I don't like very much about this gun is the lpr. You have to be very careful with adjusting the lpr. You're supposed to have a pressure tester which is about 60 dollars and it doesn't come with one. While adjusting the LPR you have to take the trigger frame off unless you send the gun to bob long to have it drilled. My LPR was higher than what it should have been so it was kicking and was chopping tons of paint. I turned it down and after that it shot like a dream but i'd rather not have to deal with that stuff you know? I'm used to egos where I just gas up and go and don't worry about anything.
It gets pretty bad efficiency. If you run a 45/45 set up you probably won't have enough air to finish the game if you shoot 4+ pods and a hopper. I run with a 68 though so I was always okay.
this gun is very quiet too which is cool. Sometimes in the snake I can take a couple snap shots real quick and sometimes people wouldn't even hear me for a little.
it's a good solid gun. it doesn't get great efficiency though, and it is relatively heavy.
it's a good solid gun. it doesn't get great efficiency though, and it is relatively heavy. I used to have an 06 ego and i would recommend the ego over the marq but egos are my favorite guns ever and i would have to say after shooting tons of guns, the marq is definitely better than the angels and matrixes I've owned.
If you really like the way spool valve guns shoot but don't want all of the hassle that comes with one, I recommend the marq. You won't go wrong with one, and they definitely shoot AWESOME, but i don't like the LPR system and i don't like the weight/ efficiency. the way the gun shoots though will definitely boost it's rating.
Bob long Mar 6 QD Pillow Bolt which makes servicing a breeze. Has the 14" Bob Long barrel, Violent series trigger, hybrid grips
This is a great marker though they go for abou 800 new you can find one in near new condition for about 300$ and welll worth it.Stock Barrel- The stock barrel isn't Bad,Stock Feedneck- The stock feedneck is perfect. Small and clamping.Even though the Marq isn't the lightest marker out there, it's weight is distributed evenly, which gives you the impression that it's lighter than it really is. I have had my for about 6 months and so far and i have not broke any paintball, it is easy to maintain regardless of what some people are saying
I have tryed meny markers in the 4 years i been playing and this by far is my Favorite
Overall this is a great gun to buy. I strongly suggest getting this gun I* got mine for 300$ and it was money well spent
Accurate, quiet, and very easy on paint with pillow bolt upgrade.
The stock marq 6 is my personal favorite in the original marq series. It is quiet and shoots a great lane. Probobly my favorite gun i have ever shot. Bob Long makes some great upgrades 2 that make it extremely nice. That being said, it was great while it worked...it spent just as much time at bob long as i had it working.
Stock feedneck wedge
Inefficient for a poppit
easy to roll orings
GOOD: Nice marker for any player, it is balanced well in the hands because the regulator and grip are relativly far apart. not luxe far, but nicely spaced.
there are many upgrades you can find for this, so you can make yours truly unique. not visually unless you lazer or anno it, but you can make it work how you want.
THE STOCK BOARD IS ADJUSTABLE. whoever wrote a review saying that it wasnt was wrong. you can adjust the dwell, debounce, and even adjust the firing delay.
it has all the benefits of a spool valve marker without the drawbacks which means no bolt stick, and better efficiency.
The feed neck is extremely low because it is milled into the body. You can get a higher one from bob long if you play dorito side, but i play snake so i need a lower one.
the grip frame is very thin, and with the stock grips can barely hold the battery so you might get a bulge.
The stock regulator is easily my favorite one on the market, but the macroline port is in the middle so if you are used to an eclipse or angel reg, then you might want to get a cp reg.
BAD: inefficient for a poppit marker, unless you have the proficiency engine.
you can not take off the feed neck pipe so if your hopper neck is too wide, you need to sand it down. the collar is upgradeable though.
When you take out the engine, it is easy to roll o rings on the out side because dow 55, (the recommended lube) swells them so they can roll or break on the transfer holes.
Maintaining the lpr means taking off the grip frame, unscrewing 4 screws, and using pliers to detach the hose to the solenoid, then trying to get the pistons out by either sucking them out, or using a tiny allen wrench to push it out. then gooping up the pistons and getting them back in and BLUE loctiting the cover back on. on top of THAT, you either need to have a gauge with the right size barb and have the grip frame off, and adjusting it that way, or getting the specific pressure test from bob long and getting new gauges so you can adjust it precisly. just take it to a tech to adjust the lpr.
The annodizing is not always consistent throughout the marker because not all the aluminum is always the exact same grade. it will look fine in normal light, but if you look at an all black one in bright light, your barrel may be a dark purple, your reg a dark blue, and your trigger straight black.
INDIFFERENT: depending on where you like your macro line to go into the regulator, you might want to get a new one. if you like an on/off asa, you are going to need a new one, if you want a low rise or high rise clamping feed neck, you need to either go to vanquishproducts.com or boblongdirect.com. these markers are not made anymore so if you can find one, buy it for no more the 450 no matter what it has. if it is bone stock, no more then 350. the stock trigger is a spring return and is kind of like an ego trigger with a less pronounced swoop, so you might want a trigger from either critical, violent products, or bob long also. not much of a snatch grip, and you will either get one with the 12 inch assasins barrel, or the 14 inch pro series one piece barrel. These do not come in many colors so you are going to need to anodize it to get the color you might want.
Great marker all around, many ways to set it up, stable in the hands and is a paint burning dragster. you will run out of paint faster then normal with this so watch out for it. Once you get one, you will fall in love with it instantly.
Marq 6 -with 4 eyes and qd ram
marqd for death grips
Stock trigger is stiff
Hard to access LPR
I got my Marq 6 in a trade for my old Russian Legion Intimidator. I wan't sure what to expect when I got this gun. After playing with it, I think its an amazing shooting gun, especially for the price of it now.
When I first got the gun and took it out, I thought the gun looked very good. Sleek milling and good ano. I picked it up and did not like the trigger to begin. Its a nice shape, but the trigger is stiff with the current spring in the gun. A simple change to a lighter spring or a magnet mod fixes this problem. The gun felt nice in my hands, and I was excited to shoot it.
Playing with it-
I took the gun out to my field for the first time, whent to the chrono, simply adjusted the HPR to the velocity, and went out to shoot. I was surprised at how little kick and how smooth the gun shot. I'm used to the snappy feeling of a Timmy, and this gun was a big change to me on how the gun felt. During play with it, I loved it, and wouldn't put it down to shoot anything else. Efficiency is just ok, I got around 800-900 shots with my 48/45, but mine isnt tuned for efficiency, and Bob Long's new efficiency kit should help this.
I really like this gun, and probably wont get rid of it. Shoots really nice and smooth and its great for the price. There are many upgrades out for this gun, and with Bob Long customer support, if anything should ever go wrong, they've got your back. Best gun I've owned yet.
honestly it shoot lazers out of the box but if your into upgrading you gun get 4 eye system and a pillow bolt.
speed- its very fast it can out run just about any gun out there with the stock board
out of box- this is one of the very few guns that when you pick it up out of the box for the first time is will be read to shoot and you do not need to set the dwell and everything.
board- the board on this has everything you need and more. It is not necessary the to buy a tadao or hate.
trigger- I have a critical on it now because i cannot walk the stock trigger because my hands are to big to pull the stock trigger quickly, i didnt have any probles with the stock trigger it was a personal preference.
looks- this gun actually does shoot as good as it shoots. this gun is sexy and that is all i need to say.
Definantly buy this gun it is the best gun i have ever shot and i am a huge gun whore
Dye or Nitro Duck high or Low pressure, Smart Parts Freak kit or Sly Barrel Kit, View Loader Velocity
Dye high pressure70/4500, Sly Barrel Kit, View Loader Velocity, Bob Long S-Class trigger and Critical ON/OFF.
3. On/OFF- this is preference though.
4. 4 Eye System
5. Yakuza OLED
Great marker out of the box.
Huge bang for your buck.
Trigger is instant replacement. I love On/Off's
When breaking this thing out of its cool little box. It feels great. Everything is solid and put together well. The finish is so much nicer than some markers out there even at the same money. Bob and his team do an excellent job making it look like it can shoot. So here are my Pro's, Con's and in betweens.
Efficiency- This marker has good efficiency out of the box, it does need to be tuned a little but it is great compared to S and D brands that make single tube markers.
Speed- WOW, it is fast with the stock board. Once I changed the trigger to the S-Class trigger from Bob Long it is super fast. Consistancy is key and it has it in spades. You don't have to change the board unless you plan on going to a league like PSP. If you need ramping get a board (Yakuza) if not stock is awesome.
Accuracy- This is very nice, it can put ball on ballvery easily. Kick is very light once you get the LPR set correctly. Remember that the LPR setting may be lower, at Higher altitudes, than at sea level.
Balance- Now I know this is not the lightest marker anyone has ever held. The Marq series of marker seem to be very balanced. You can change direction and aim very easily and with all the accessories on the marker it feels very natural. Not nose or tail heavy the way some markers are. If it is to heavy then you need to go to the gym Bertha.
Trigger- The triggers on the Marq 6, 7 and Rapper all need to find a home in the junk drawer. The shape is nice but they are stiff to move and the spring is inconsistant from one marker to the next. Some of my team have this marker as well as some that I have sold. They all have the same issue.
I have purchased the S-Class trigger from Bob Long as well one of my customers has a trigger from Incubus on PB Nation and both are awesome. Choose your shape and buy.
ASA- I am one of those nerds that has to have an ON/OFF. If you are cool with just an ASA then the stock one is excellent.
Barrel- Ok I know the Bob Long barrels are good. But not my thing. I added a Sly kit to this marker and it has a great sound to it (very quite and deep) and I think makes the marker a killer from a distance.
Board- I will be playing in some events that will require a mode that the stock board does not have. So I am adding the Tadao Yakuza OLED board. Tadao id the only board I would say belongs in this marker as it supports the four eye system in total. Other brands work but do not use the extra set of eyes.
Bob Long Rap- Bob Long has had some good and bad things going for it. Right now they are getting everything right. yeah we have heard he has a temper but why do so many people not like his markers???? These are probably the best markers for the money. If you want to come and visit and shoot mine you will see, I have a bunch of the competing brands in my bag too and none are as good.
Plus the old Bob Longs with the rats nest wire are gone. Whoever helped with the new boards and wiring is a god.
LPR Tools- you have to buy an LPR tool to set the marker up correctly. I did (but I will be doing it for multiple markers) and it is worth the money.
Engine- New High efficency engine will make it even better and means that I am spending more money because I have to have it.
In the 750.00 and below class of markers this is the real deal. The prices are lower now and the marker is a steal. Even the prices after the big sell offs will be lower and a great buy. Upgrades are inexpensive and turn this marker into a Giant Killer but are not needed outside the trigger. 38.00 is little to spend on a great shooting trigger.
This marker should be a first choice for all you non-conformists out there.
9 out of 10 is its score and maybe higher when I get done playing with it.
Oh yeah the spell check feature was down so leave my spelling alone.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, April 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm PST
New regulator (stock +-8, the Palmer +- 2/3)
Shoots Flat like a cocker,
Light as an ego
New regulator (stock +-8, the Palmer +- 2/3)
This gun is awsome. I've played with many guns and none has really impressed me as much for this price. Its a great value. I got mine for $489 at http://www.actioncenterpaintball.com (no problems ordering from them). Shoots straight and flat. There is practically no kick. Its very quite and air efficiancy is pretty good id say almost a full case with my 90 4500 and almost 1/2 a case with my 45 4500.
why are u reading my review.....go buy it now. Best value for the money without a question.
Timmies--same idea, just not as tightly packaged
Rapper--same gun, but in a prettier package!
DMs/PMs: smooth, but just not the same level of reliability and comfort in the same package. Also, their resale drops like a bomb every year, while at least my Marq6 keeps its head above the water.
Shockers--please, let my review be not besmirched by the mention of that name or its parent brand. Ew.
Trigger: POWER, Critical, WS delrin, BL, any modded Timmy triggers...basically, anything other than stock. Or, mod the stock trigger with a magnet/use the springs.
Board: Tadao, if you like to tweak. Otherwise stick with stock
New pillow bolt/QD ram. Helps a lot with maintenance. New Marqs come with these stock along with a milled external LPR-adjust slot
Small--very small, single tube design. Akin to a Shocker but better in every way.
Light--not as light as some of those sky-high-priced custom Ego models, but definitely lighter than Bobby's older offerings, and very well-balanced. Still ridiculously light if you look back a few years ago to what was on the market.
FAST--not much to say. Very fast. I'm not sure whether or not 4 eyes actually make a difference, but they don't hurt anything.
Quiet--Like a DM, but still a little less of a swishy sound signature. I love how these sound!
Comfortable--Extremely nice thin grip frame [esp. with panel grips] and the lack of a front LPR make this thing very easy to maneuver...definitely a plus. And the lack of the classic BL satellite-dish Ashcroft gauge is a nostalgic, but useful, omission.
Efficient--Not anything ridiculous [see AKA, MacDev] but still pretty respectable. Albeit...moot in today's world of self-fill all-day air...
Low Maintenance--Basically your average Intimidator-level maintenance. Dow55, as always. Shouldn't have to be breaking it down every day of play, but nor should you just use/abuse this without a little TLC now and then. The self-contained firing engine is a blessing. Also, I should mention the much more refined wiring than Intimidators of old. No matter how steady your hand, it's always kind of a crapshoot when taking apart your Timmy in terms of wiring getting yanked out of somewhere...but I still love my Intimidators. No worries.
BL reliability/simplicity--see above, mostly. As long as you're familiar with their particular maintenance tricks, BL guns can be the smoothest, fastest things out there.
Feedneck--Low, clampy, and simple. I like.
Awkward LPR placement--a necessary evil. Honestly not that bad because you're never going to adjust your LPR that often anyway, so don't worry about it. Better than having it stick right into your mitt, eh?
Trigger. Yeah, yeah. It sucks. To avoid major bounce with the stock trigger you MUST run a spring, or magnets. That's just the way it is. The shape is nice, though.
Stupid 12" stock barrel. Nobody uses it. Stop giving me these barrels, Bob. At least start remaking that 14" .691 version.
Stock board. I applaud the concept--simplicity and functionality--but can I please have a more complex debounce setting than "on" and "off"? It's kind of a joke. Had I paid full retail price for my Marq I would be offended, but as it is it's just a nuisance. I am glad that at least the Closers/Darqs come with Tadao. Other than the debounce [and similarly pitiful dwell choices--namely, between 8 and 10 ms] it's a very nice board, and really helps show off how fast this marqer [LOLOL] can be.
Great new innovation from Bob Long. No longer can people say that BL pumps out the same gun in a different package; this is a real step forward for the company and the high-end market. I am glad that it's no longer just SP/Dye/PE fighting amongst themselves for market share. Besides, when Eclipse's idea of a PL gun is a 1x3cm logo on the ram sleeve [or Dye and some insipid lasering] don't you look back and appreciate the times when PL Intimidators were actually distinguishable from one another? Bob continues that with the Marqs, which is very cool, because more choice and individuality is always a plus!! Now we have 6s, 7s, Rappers, Closers, Darqs, Edges, Mummies, and more to come...nice!
Great guns; go buy a 6 if you're strapped for cash or a Closer if you're on the champagne budget.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 11:10 am PST
Dark Seoul Grips
Quick Disconnect Ram
LPR can be hard to adjust without milling on frame.
Not many upgrades, although unneeded.
This gun is great. It's easy to maintain, and shoots like a dream. Barely uses any air compared to spoolies, and just as quiet. Some days, I'll chop maybe one ball, but that'll be it. The feedneck is as small as they come, leaving barely room between the top of my gun and my loader. The firing engine is great, since it's simple to maintain and won't quit on the field. Eye logic is also fantastic, even with only 2 eyes and the stock board. If you have an LPR tester and the milled slot, LPR adjustment is simple, even though it rarely needs to be tuned. I think the trigger is great, and the HPR is terrific. The grip frame is nice, and is as comfy as an UL frame. I would only recommend a new ASA, since the stock one has no on/off, and a board for easier and better adjustability.