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Redz Ion, Pure Energy 48/3000 Air Tank, and Halo Belt Drive Loader.
Definatly an new barrel.
It has a decent weight, it is decently fast, and looks pretty cool.
Even with the pepperstick, terrible accuracy. also its hard 2 clean the bolt.
Don't get me wrong, this gun is a great beginner gun. But when your playing with teams and you miss that money shot that you look 2 get alot of appreciation 4, it can be the most agravating thing in the world. That is why if your an accuracy kind of guy, don't get this gun. However, if your a guy who likes to shoot fast, go with it. Typically, im both, so don't ask me why i got this gun. Cause i really dont know...
If your an accuracy kind of guy, don't get this guy, dont get this gun. However, if your a guy who likes to shoot fast, go with it.
Picky with the batterys
After many hours of reaserch for a good mid range gun. I decided on getting a Ion. As so as I did, alot people started to try talk me out of buying one and i thought it would be better to get a good condition second hand Ion Xe or something like that, around $400NZD (about $200USD) So after many months, i fing out that one of my fellow club members is selling his Redz Ion. My first thoughts were no because the last time i saw him using it he couldnt play because of some problem. But he assured me that the problem was fixed and it was working fine. So next club day i had a go with it at the range. It felt so good to let rip with it, lemme tell ya, it was such a big change from shooting the 98 all day. So we agreed on a price of $420NZD and after 2 months of hard work, I had enough. So that club day i shelled out the cash and he handed it over to me. It looks so mean, i thought. He gave me quick run through on how to use it and i went and set it up and was ready to go.
Chrono was at around -/+ 7fps. I was running at 285fps.
Speed was great, its not the fastest gun out there but who needs more than 10bps. I was shooting some good ropes out there, a big advantage for me.
The pepperstickz barrel was amazing, better than my Ceramic 14" for my 98. Had about a inch and a half spread at 60 meters. Very impressed.
I had no problems on the feild with it (besides the battery, more on that later) Eyes and stuff were working well. Next to nothing kick on it, since its a spoolie. Very quiet as well.
Looks very sexy with the Redz body kit.
The weight of the gun is nice and light as well.
And since i got a second hand older version, it came with the redz bolt which is good
I did bring a fresh 9v battery, but it wasnt a very high quality one so half way through one of the games it just stopped shooting altogether. A bit worried i went back to the staging area and borrowed a friend high quality 9v. Worked perfectly for the rest of the day.
Disasembling the gun is a bit of a chalenge, but thanks to a very imformative manual (new one from smartparts.com) it was easy.
The trigger does have a fair bit of slop from side to side, but its better than the stock one.
It is quite gas hungry, about 1 full hopper and a half use 1k of air. As long as you fill up before every game though you should be sweet.
EDIT - 30 October 2009
I have just played with this at one of the major tournaments in New Zealand. I worked like a dream. I had no problems with it what so ever!
Despite its minor flaws... Overall, very good mid range gun. Just little things that set it back. Dissasembling is easy once you get the hang of it.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, October 30th, 2009 at 12:29 am PST
tippmann 98 custom, m4 6 position car stock, 21 inch sniper barrel, and core clamping feed neck.
Great for its price
On/off drop forward
Regulator will freeze with CO2
This is a very good gun for its price. It's a great beginning gun for all speedball players. It has a price of a woodsball gun with the rate of fire of a speedball gun. What else is great about it is that you can change the body into different colors and designs.
NXe tank cover
SP 360 QEV or similar
Barrel kit for those that want the perfect paint/bore match
Even better bolt
but these aren't necessary
Not too difficult to pull apart
Good speed too from stock board
Nothing i can think of
I enjoy owning this marker, it has superb accuracy due the the Pepperstiks barrel, good efficiency from the stock reg, and plenty fast enough for any type of Paintball. The best thing about this Redz edition is the fact it comes with all the Redz equipment stated in the description such as on/off asa, blade trigger, clamping feedneck etc. What i will point out is these markers no longer come with the Redz bolt, older ones did such as mine. It isn't a tremendous loss but a new bolt is always nice :-) With just standard maintenance this will do the job for many games too come, and due to so many people owning ions, there is bound to be a solution for any, if they ever occur
Lots of fun and easy to program and use. A good solid marker as a first electro. It gets 9 from me
Redz Ion+virtue board, Tech T L7 bolt, .687 barrel back, NDZ trigger
Halo B w/Rip Drive+V35 board, speedfeed
Pure Energy 68/4500
Came ready to shoot out of the box when i got it and with spare parts plus some other goodies from Redz. This is basically a stock ION with all the main weaknesses taken care of with the help of Redz upgradeded parts.
The 14inch pepperstick barrel is pretty accurate and definitely rips the stock barrel apart. I picked up a .687 back off my buddy which i found to be even better, but the .689 it comes with definitely does the job well.
The cam-lock feedneck is a lifesaver as it makes the feedneck on stock IONs look like scrap metal...even though thats pretty much what it is. It holds my Halo in nice and snug every game and i never have to worry about losing my loader when diving into a snake. It is easy to adjust and release too.
The Redz trigger is pretty nice, defiintely better than the regular stock ION ones, but it wasn't my favourite. I decided to buy a nice NDZ one after the fact, but the Redz one isn't bad at all.
It comes with the stock ION board which kind of sucks but for the price you can't be expecting anything else. It works fine for a while until you get sick of it and need to go with something done right. I picked up a virtue board and it made a huge difference. I definitely recommend the Virtue board.
The reg on this gun is decent but switch to a CP or Bob Long or something else high end and you'll be a lot happier. No more +/- 10 fps from the stock one.
The Redz bodykit, grips and reg cover give it a nice look, but the bodykit is still plastic, giving the gun that 'Fisher-Price' look. It is better than the stock one, but I think metal ones look so much nicer.
The Redz bolt is pretty good, definitely lighter and more efficient than the stock bolt, but i decided to spend a little more money and get the best bolt money can buy, the L7. The Redz bolt definitely did a great job though, i just had some extra cash after a while and felt like a new part for my gun.
The on/off ASA is great. It gets rid of that piece of junk one that the stock ION come with. The regular ION one is absolutely terrible, while the Redz one has some style and a great on/off feature. The only thing i didn't like about it was the fact that the logo jewels started peeling off after a while, so i took all of them on the gun off anyways.
The stock ION board in this gun can be a pain to use and adjust. It has the standard 4 modes of fire and annoying wait to turn the gun on, so i upgraded to a virtue board and absolutely love it. The stock board is great for recballers though.
If you are looking at buying a stock ION or Epiphany, i suggest looking into one of these. Its not an Ego or DM and I'm not claiming it shoots like one, but for the price you can't go wrong. Solid gun that hasn't failed me once.
8 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009 at 10:45 pm PST
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Currently using the Redz Ion with dye mini drop/dye ASA and a Empire Reloader B
qev, new bolt, different ASA w/on/off valve, different grips...
cheap 17 bps, reliable, no BS (stock)
Every "upgrade" has almost negligible impact on performance aside from trigger/barrel.
Watch out for false descriptions of the Redz Ion. Despite what various sites may say, it does not come with a Redz Ion bolt...Even PB review's description is wrong. After speaking with Redz, they informed me that this bolt is no longer in production because of legal issues with Dye and it hasn't been sold in nearly a year and a half.
The representative I spoke to was also quite defensive, arrogant, impatient, and eager to get rid of me. By the way he argued with me over the issue, I also hung up feeling fairly belittled.
Now to the gun itself...it was terrible out of the box. The O-Ring the pepper stick barrel came with didn't hold it on. My barrel was falling off every 20 shots, causing tons of breaks. I tried about 5 different O-Rings and none of them solved the problem. I even teflon taped the threads and it still kept falling off. It appears I have now found an O-RIng (tank) that will hold it. The fact that the O-RIng that came on the barrel wasn't adequate is absurd though...
The Redz grips are pretty cheap and flimsy. The first time I unscrewed them to put in the battery, a giant chunk of the grip fell out from around the screw. I gently screw the grips back in, but the screws keep shredding them, making chunks fall off. I am genuinely being gentle with it...
The ASA works, but the design requires fiddling before the first time you use it. There are much better ASA designs out there...especially if you want to drop your tank a little bit.
Clamp neck is useful...be careful not to accidentally unscrew it when putting your hopper on or taking it off...that's common sense though. I think there are better options for this area..
The trigger is a very good upgrade when compared to stock.
Everything else is purely aesthetic. When it comes down to it, I'd rather have better internals than cool colors...let's be honest here. The rubber exterior is always going to look cheesy no matter what body kit you have on it.
Buy a stock Ion and upgrade the QEV, trigger, barrel, feed/clamp neck, bolt, and asa...better yet just get an epiphany... I don't recommend buying the Redz Ion. You'll just end up replacing most of the "upgrades" with ones that actually improve performance (or better quality parts for the ones Redz put on).
If you bought a stock ion and upgraded the bolt, barrel, and QEV it would seriously outperform the Redz Ion... and it would cost less. What Redz did to it is a lot of hype and a lot of mediocrity.
NOTE: My rating is reflective of the value of getting the Redz Ion as opposed to the stock Ion and upgrading individual parts. This is not a rating of the Ion itself, simply the upgrades Redz put on it.
Smart Parts Epiphany and Shocker (both rentals at All American).
I have a Halo B Loader with Rip Drive, an ungraded CP Sling Trigger, and Draxxus 48/4500 HP Air Tank.
I reccomend a new trigger, because the Redz roller wiggles a little bit side to side. The trigger is fine, but it still has that magnetic click like the Stock trigger does. I also recommend a New board, which I still have yet to buy.
This was the first electronic gun I have ever owned, but I have shot an Epiphany and a Shocker before. This gun has never let me down, and can compete with the best of them. The pepperstick barrel is ver accurate, and is very reliable. Once I put a virtue and a QEV in this baby its over.....
I recommend this product, because if you buy a normal stock ion, you will end up upgrading it anyway. So why not just buy it with all the upgrades already on it except for a new board? Great Gun. 10/10
10 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, June 21st, 2007 at 7:22 am PST
Umm there isn't really too many comparable things that I've shot. This is the first gun I've owned since a few years ago when I had a vision Impulse. I've shot some non-electro autocockers, old school shockers, umm a-5's, some spyder electros.
Mini Pepperstick Kit
(Redz Bolt?) Dunno if I actually got one. Either way I'm looking at L7 once this bolt dies.
All the other good crap that comes with the Redz Ion.
Anti-Siphoned 20oz's (Don't use Co2.) I have 68ci 4500 Crossfire HP on order.
EggIII <--Really impressed.
QEV<----Saves you money by increasing efficiency of air, and time by having to clean out the noid so much.
Mini Pepperstick Kit- Action Village had em for 40 bucks... get two more quality backs to size up paint and keep this thing slinging Darts.
Board Some Day? Having more shooting profiles would be nice, and the BPS Cap sucks, but I'm pretty sure this gun shoots faster then my old Impy ever did. I'll grab a Scenario Dreams board once this one dies.
Ball on Ball Accuracy
Pretty fast Semi Operation
Fixes some small annoyances
Its just so beautiful people will try to steal it ;-p
Alright I can't go on without telling my horrible experience with Actionvillage.com They "had" what I wanted in stock when I ordered. A few days go by and the package never shipped. I call them up on the phone numerous times to get everything straighted out. When they finally did, they forgot to put in my .693 barrel front that was supposed to be part of the Mini Pepperstick Kit I ordered. They blamed it on Redz... I heard actionvillage was good, but they disappointed me.
Now for the Review- I open the box and pull out a gorgeous gun. I just got it in olive because I'm not really all about the flashyness... plus I play an equal amount of Woodsball/Speedball.
Well my first instinct was to gas it up and go rip, but I decide to take the gun apart (minus the regulator.) I install the QEV, and put some good 'ole dow 33 grease all over. What caught my attention though, was the my bolt was BLACK???? The Redz bolt from all the pictures I've seen was RED? Did I get SCREWED? Without a scale I'm not sure if its stock or not, because besides the weight and color I can't really tell the Redz Bolt apart from the stock SP bolt. I need better pics, o well anyways. I put it all back together.
First time I went through the gun it took me about a half an hour... that's with installing the QEV.
I turn the Pressure on the Reg down before gassing it up, because I've read horror stories of people blowing everything out before they even got to do anything.
I put the pressure at about 150psi. I shoot a few balls with the stock settings. I was throwing out darts... ball on ball from distances that didn't seem possible... the velocity was probably a lil hot, but it was amazing. On my old impy I had a Freak Barrel Set and this gun was shooting as accurate as my old baby ever did. Only bummer is that I wish I had more Barrel sizes... but for the price I'm not going to complain.
I mess around with all the modes to make sure it worked... sure did... okay... time to tune.
I start from the bottom... just like all the FAQ's will tell you. I found my setting to be around 25blinks, which is high for a gun with a Bolt and QEV, but I don't think I got the Redz bolt. So, being I got the 360 Qev... that's a pretty decent drop since I guess the 360 QEV isn't supposed to flow quite as well as the others. Install was so easy though. I didn't have a Crono at my house to tune it in as well as I want, but visually I figured the settings to be close.
The trigger that comes with the gun was pretty nice. It was tight, with minimal slop side to side. I'd say none. The trigger was fast and smooth. I smiled when my fingers decided they wanted to walk like the good ole days. I'd say I was probably getting 10bps on semi which isn't bad for being out of practice. The only reason I'll say around 10bps is it audibly and visually looked about the same as full auto which is capped at 10.
Rebound is a breeze to initiate. It instantly goes with my trigger pull. Probably another product of the very decent trigger.
Kickback... what kickback? (sry I'm used to shooting rifles) The kickback never effected my accuracy.
The Feedneck clamp was a lil difficult to clamp tight on the EGG. It wanted to move ever so slightly, but once I got it tight enough it was in FOR GOOD. I'd recommend putting a good amount of grease on the cam so it clamps better. This clamp does its job though.
The ASA is functional, looks good. I've been very careful screwing my gas in, just because I've read of horror stories stripping crap out. However, I think people should always be careful about not cross-treading. That should go with anything you screw in, that's not a weakness. That's a user error.
I've only played woods ball up to this point of the review. The fields are opening up here in the next month so I'll get some real stress testing of the gun. However so far I love it. It shoots straight as any other good gun. It's really efficient. I get 1000 shots out of a 20oz C02...(((BOLD Underline !!!!DON'T SHOOT CO2!!!!!)))........ It hasn't had any terrible liquid get inside, but it would shoot even more consistent with a quality air supply, which is why I have one on order. Hopefully crossfire is still good? The stock regulator seems good to me, I had a Max-Flo on my old impy and this one seems to be pretty good. Some people will hate on Max-Flo and the one that comes on the ION, but I think its good. I just "broke mine in" and gave it a good rebuild. Shoots pretty darn consistent for crappy C02.
I can see people wanting an aftermarket board, but its good to start out on. If your a regular tournament player I could justify getting it. However I plan on using the stock in tourny's till the board or noid craps.
I'd say... if your looking for a very competitive gun, at a great price get it. It's very efficient. It's accurate. Its fast enough for anyone besides "l33t" peeps. If they need a faster gun this ones cheap to make fast. It has a huge backing in the aftermarket community. You could pretty much end up with a gun with no stock parts if you wanted to. Its a very durable gun. It doesn't shred paint. The eye works well.
There's really no reason not to have a gun like this as a back-up for a super high end, or a main gun for the less financially gifted individuals. This gun nine times out of ten won't be the reason why you loose a game.
10 for great gun for the price.
note-I've shot a handful of other guns in the 300-500 price range, and this one is comparable to all of them, other then ROF. Which I've never relied on to much. If max speed is important to you (qev,scenario dreams) makes the gun $450 which is 50 bucks more than PMR, but I think this setup is more accurate. Either way all I'm saying is that it is comparable. I'm not saying one is better then the other. It's your choice on the brand you wanna rep. A while back when I played a comparable gun to this would cost 600-700. Its amazing what the dollar will buy you now.
other note- can anyone tell me what their bolt looks like inside there redz ion?
I guess I can measure it on a scale one of these days.
not really i haven't had a gun where i could upgrade everything
redz ion with cp rake trigger,cp reg, 18 ULTRALITE(for scenario) and a 10 inch ultralite(for speedball), t-board with membrane, virtue eyes, dye grip,360 QEV, virtue Ez-on,L7 bolt ,with a v35 halo hopper. and more
trigger, maybe a grip because i din't like the feel,
Fast gun with out all the upgrades i put on it.
None. used to have problem with air but not anymore.
Great gun. it's fun. It shoots pretty fast. nothing amazing but it is surpising. It's accurate with redz barrel. Almost as accurate as my 18 inch ultralite. This gun comes with all the necessary upgrades but you still need to get a QEV! They help a lot with the dwell and ROF. I sugest this gun the ion is so upgradable i made mine better then my friends pmr. But he hasn't upgraded his. It's definatly not as light as the pmr which is only 50 dollars away. But with the redz ion i haven't chopped once which is crazy. And i've had it for 3 months. The main reasons why i bought this gun because it has everything and then because it's an ion u can upgrade it like crazy. Which i sugest u do unless your looking for a ego.
Great gun. Ions are so upgradeable it's awesome. I give it a 10 because i still haven't chopped once.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, April 21st, 2007 at 12:17 pm PST
Spider Pylot ACS, its a piece of crap compared to the Redz Ion.
blue Redz Ion,clear Empire Reloader2 hopper, DXS 48ci 3000psi N2 tank, blue V-Force Pro Vantage. Redz 07 eNVy gear.
If you want a virtue board, get it from actiopnvillage.com because they throw in the free membrane and EZon switch which could be helpful if you wear gloves
Pepper Sticks very accurate, Camlock never lose your hopper, ASA and Rail
Nothing really this is a very thought out gun
This is a great gun for its price of only $350. its reliable, shoots straight and fast with its pepper stick barrel. which is 14". Its small and not that heavy so you can really move around the field well with this gun. It hasnt chopped any paint with me yet and i use piece of crap walmart paint so thats pretty impressing. Its better than all of its predecessor's. The epiphany is just a pimped out ion, thats what this is, just not a very fancy body, but the redz body is nice. The rail, way to many kinks to work out says my friend who shoots one.
Very good gun get it over any other gun in its price range.