Little Chin Protection
Peripheral vision lackluster
I've owned these goggles for just over one year, and I'm pleased with them. They are far more comfortable than my JT Elites.
The googles sport a great anti-fog coating that actually works. It's miraculous what it's like to not have to look through wax-paper when you're playing. However, the anti-fog isn't perfect. After the first time I rinsed paint off my mask, the lens began to condensate. Water begin to form on the interior of the mask--but the condensate reminded me more of Rain-X style droplets, which allowed me greater visibility than the usual "fog" that forms on most masks. I am usually able to lower the amount of condensate by breathing down through my mask, and moving a little to increase ventilation. Depending on how much one sweats, this may or may not happen to you.
I've had the current lenses in my mask for about ten months, and I've played a total of 24 hours with them (two 12 hour games, split into 4 3-hour blocks). In this short period of time, the coating has begun to chip away from the exterior of the lens. I've only ever used water, cotton, and microfiber cloths on the mask, and I'm a little shocked to see the coating beginning to chip.
Thankfully, cleaning and changing the lens is one of the easiest tasks I've ever performed. Pop a few easy-to-remove but secure clips, and the lens comes right out, allowing one to easily clean the lens--which I do frequently to remove paint splatter or hits.
The quick-change lens also means it is easy to swap out clear, amber, and smoked lenses depending on conditions, or for those looking for some style, mirrored lenses are also available.
To go along with the assortment of lenses is the assortment of colors, in multiple styles, which can really add to the customization of the player. Instead of just flat black like the JT Elite goggles, I ended up grabbing a pair of brown and green (I look a little like Master Chief in these things), but the colors have helped me more than once to blend in better to my surroundings.
The mask is surprisingly comfortable, with pads on the ears to protect your pinna from the pressure of the strap and errant paintball strikes. However, there is little chin protection, and the throat is completely exposed. If you are sensitive in the area, I'd recommend a neck guard.
Overall, the mask is great, and has decent anti-fog ability. At my time of purchase, I paid $70 for them. Lenses ranged anywhere from $35 and up from my local pro-shop, but on-field vendors near my often carried them for a much more reasonable $20-$25. If these goggles are in your price range, they'd be a worthy purchase. If you've got the extra scratch, Dye and Angel might be more your fit.
Idema Combat Systems
JT Pro Flex
Scott Bad Ass
Green `02 Cocker / Right hand feed
Lapco 10 inch Big Shot
Green ANS Jackhammer II
Green ANS 3-way
Green ANS Quickpull II bolt
Green ANS Quick Fire grip frame
Green ANS short drop foreward
Green ANS duckbill asa
Stock Vertical Reg
View Loader Revy
Field of view and newer design lens
As with all of the newer masks ventilation is the major down fall.
I purchased this paintball mask / goggle system from McCoy Paintball, brand new, for a about $69.00 including shipping.
My first impressions are that this mask vents as well as any other on the market today. I was very happy with how well it "breaths". That being said, nothing vents as well as the old Scott Bad Ass system. Period.
The mask does a great job of not fogging up. I just played 8 hours of woodsball in the rain with no issues of fogging. Take care of the lens, and it will take care of you. Follow the directions. Use the correct cleaning cloth. You will not have any trouble with fogging.
The mask offer good protection. It covered everything a mask should cover, eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and even my chin and jaw line. I like the look of this mask. It provides the wearer with a tough look... I personally think the V-Force Profiler offers slightly better field of view, but they are so close it doesn't matter. I would also mention that the Profiler is better if you wear glasses.
I purchased the Olive / Tan for woodsball and it is my opinion that V-Force has done a really great job offering colors that work well for woodsball players. Everyone else offers bright colors but only a few offer woods friendly colors. And, no, black is not a woodsball friendly color.
Do Not Do This To Your Safety Gear.
I have taken an X-acto knife to slightly open the vent holes / slits, to improve the air flow of the goggle system. As a 39 year old adult, with over 23 years of paintball experience, I must warn everyone, do not alter your safety gear. Period. I do not recomend anyone cut or alter their safety gear in any way. EVER!! That being said it made a slight improvement to air flow.
I have been using a Scott Bad Ass goggle system for many years now, the V-Force Grill is my new paintball safety gear.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, May 17th, 2011 at 10:04 am PST
To start this is the absolute best mask i have ever used for my team. We purchased one to test and shot on hopper (180 rounds) at the mask from 40 ft and only about 100 or so rounds broke, which gives it amazing bounce, we only picked up about 50 rounds (the others hit the fence).
This mask is extremely light and much more breathable than my events. It is very flexible which is a pro and a con in that if you get bunkered in the face the paint can get you in the mouth or the neck easily.
The lense is easy to clean and change. when i was shot in the mask for a stupid move and we got back to the pit i was able to pour some water on it and tada its clean after a lil wipe from the micro fiber on my Tz jersey. Also if the lense ever gets cracked its exteremely easy to change lenses, same thing for foam when its a good time to change that, usually after like 8-12 tournaments.
This mask has a very low profile but not so low you feel that you are gonna get hit in the chin from 40 yards. It is very well ventilated making it easy to be heard which is very good for back and mid players like myself. and due to being well ventilated you never have to worry about the lense fogging up. Not only is it good to be heard but it is also pretty good at allowing you to hear others as though you arent even wearing a mask.
Back to the lense as a con. Like i said in the con area the lenses are easy to scratch if you arent using micro fiber or a material like that of the lense bag. i have had teammates use things like torn up t-shirts on their mirror lenses and by the end of the vent they need a new lense. However if you take good care of your lenses like good boys and girls it will last you a very long time
This is much better than the Event and better than a proflex. I am proud to say that my team (while still sporting empire clothing on and off field) is now using the V-Force Grill over the Empire Event
aside from the scratching of the lenses it is an amazing mask when taken care of properly. I definatly recomend this mask to any tournament player/ weekend warrior all the way to the new comer with the money to spend.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, August 8th, 2010 at 4:21 pm PST
Light, super bouncey, comftorable, you can see very well, doesnt fog
You can hear yourself
These are great goggles. They're very comftorable and light. What a really like about them is how the goggles are rubbery so you can get some bounces off of it. This mask is defenently going to improve my comfort when i paintball. Also these things CANT fog. Ive breathed on the lenses the way people try to fog up CDs and it didnt fog at all! My only problem with it is that when you talk you can hear yourself really loud, and you can hear yourself breath. But other people can hear you the same as if you werent wearing the it. This mask was a great investment and it gets a 10.
If you only want to spend $70 on a mask, DEFENENTLY get this one. I prefer it over the proflex because it has more bounce factor.
Does not fog! Great vision! Anybody would love it!
Well when I first stated to paintball I had a JT stealth paintball marker, but then I decided I was getting better at the sport so I bought the bt deta online. The mask i first had was the JT raptor and it was horrible! after half a day on the field it started to fog and the lenses are horrible! So then I thought Now that spring is here and summer is near, I decided to pick up the VForce Grills mask................. The minute I saw it and put it on I knew i had to get it. so I bought it. and a day later I was on the field without 1 single problem with the mask. Overrall Its probaly the best mask out there.
If you see this mask dont hesistate to buy it, its worth every cent and I recomend it to any pro or any begginer paintballer.
Tippmann 98C Pro A.C.T.
Scepter Barrel kit
BT Rip Clip
5 position collapsible stock
Field of view
Easy to disassemble, reassemble
Soft, helps bounce
None that I've noticed yet
From the first time I used these goggles I fell in love with them. The thermal treated lenses work amazingly well. I've played in extreme heat and cold and never had a problem with fogging. You can actually breath directly onto the lense and it won't fog one bit.
The field of vision is great too. There's a small section on each side where your peripheral vision is cut off, but it's so small I don't really think it matters.
There's larger mouth holes to help with communication on the field, but it can suck if you get hit in the mouth and have to taste paint and shell, but again that's part of paintball, it's not a weakness of the mask.
There's a good variety of replacement lenses too. Pretty much one for any light condition as well as some just aesthetic purposes. And as far as I know they're all made out of a polycarbonite with a ThermoCured anti fog coating, so you can't go wrong.
I bought my googles for about $95 at the time and I would recommend them at that price anyday. Googles are the most important part of your gear as far as I'm concerned. I would especially recomment them now because of the price drop. You can one up for about $65 now. That's a deal considering what you'll take away from your next experience using these bad boys. Enjoy.
Proto SLG Standard 09, Leopard Rotor, 45 cu 3000 psi tank
Bounce rubber, ease of cleaning, feel, LOOK!, and foam quick switch foam dry things.
The two key weaknesses are the price and the divet over the lenses.
This mask is awesome, it is better than all the other masks I have used in my opinion. I works great and when Iget hit in the lense and all off the paint seeps into the the crack around the lenses, all I do is take out the lenses in 30 second and clean it. This mask is the best mask I have ever used. And about the divet and the price, you get what you pay for an the mask comes with a visor that covers up the divet.
Single pane; not designed for dual.
A bit pricey.
I bought a Black VForce Grill. Very light and awesome looking. I can breathe easier with this mask than my other one which is a JT FLEX 8 full coverage. It also covers my ears well unlike my JT (no ear protection at all, my ears stick out and I'm not even a big person). Hasn't fogged up on me (yet). It is now my preferred mask over my full coverage JT. It also looks great with my entire SWAT camo/outfit. I cannot believe how fast I can change my lens. I usually take around 20 minutes to replace lens on my JT full coverage but with my new Grillz, I can do it in under a minute. Excellent lens design. I have a great view of the field with it.
Now for the downside. Grill were designed for single pane lens. No dual pane lens exists for it. Though, many if not most people are leaning towards dual pane (including me), there's nothing wrong with the Grill's single pane. It is thermocured with anti-fog. Everything is about taking care of lens. I think the real disadvantage of this mask is a substantial head exposure (sort of rectified by putting a visor on but it increases chance of fogging up). Other than that, it is a great mask, one of the best (even better than a DYE I4 as that particular mask barely covers my face). Will edit review as I play more with it.
I highly recommend this mask. IMO it is an excellent investment. Would give it a 9.5 due to lens restriction and forehead exposure.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Friday, December 25th, 2009 at 4:24 pm PST
Easy to clean
Good Woodsball colors
Not the best visibility
Leaves chin somewhat exposed
This is without a doubt my favorite mask. Never have had any fogging problems. It does an excellent job of creating deflections. I have had numerous shots glance off the right and left of the mask. Other masks including my Proto would have broken on contact. It fits very comfortably on my face. Love the fact it has a visor. I know others don't use them, but I do. It provides added head protection and reduces the need for a reflective lens. I play scenarios and nothing is worse than being in full camo with a bright reflective lens. The ability to replace just the foam insert is an added bonus. You don't have to throw a perfectly good mask away because the foam has rotted away. I have the beige/green mask which is a very difficult color to find in a high end mask. Most are made more for speed-ball and come in some of the most hideous colors. I'm not saying this mask is without flaws. If you have a long chin or neck you are left more exposed than other masks. The protos do provide a higher level of visibility. One thing that might be an issue for some is that the Grilz is so flexible a closeup direct hit is felt more. I have had a swollen lip from some up close shots. That doesn't mean that it doesn't provide a good level of protection. The lenses are as strong as anything else on the market. I have noticed others saying that because some paint made it though the mask then they don't feel it's safe. Much of that is due to the level of flexibility of the mask. When paint breaks on it you will get some splatter. Yes that does happen, but I have never had that occur anywhere near my eyes. Only occurs when you get hit around the mouth area. I have never worried that I wasn't safe wearing this mask. I also like the fact that it's made of high quality material. With the added face you can replace the foam I know this will last me for many seasons. Unlike my proto which I would be surprised if I could get that to last a year.
I would highly recommend this mask to anyone who is a woodballer/scenario player. You can get all the advantages of tourney mask in colors that work well in the woods. Easy to maintain and extremely durable. I have put this thing through a beating. Sometimes I get bored sneaking around and have no problem standing up and going head to head with anyone. If I didn't trust my gear I couldn't do that with confidence. Yeah it's a little pricey, but compared to others, this will last for many season.
This mask is very comfortable, easy to take apart and clean.
Lenses aren't durable, customer service sucks.
I hunted high and low for the olive/tan mask. Took alot of work and hunting, but finally found it. Then, I bought the smoke lense for it.
Overall, I love this mask. It sits nicely, is very comfortable and is quite flexible. I've had many bounces off it that would've been breaks on other masks. The foam is nice and soft, the mask breaks down and cleans very easily.
The problem I'm having is with the lense. I bought the smoke lense and it's been a huge disaster. The exterior coating has started flaking off and now the lense is useless. $40 down the drain. After calling Draxxus customer service, I was told that even though I have my reciept and the lense is less than 3 months old they're not going to do anything about it.
I clean my lense with cool water, no soaps. I only use cleaners that were created for paintball lenses. Yet the lense surface failed.
Overall, the mask is great. But, the customer service is very poor, which is what brought the rating down.
As an update. I've had this mask for a full year now, and have had to buy 4 replacement lenses. The anti-fog coating literally flakes off. As stated above, I'm very careful in cleaning. The lense takes a hit, I immediately clean with clear, clean water. Still, the coating flakes off. The anti-fog coating is crap, and the manufacturer REALLY needs to do something about it. I have just recently purchased a new Proto Switch FS and will be changing to that for good, never to touch the grill again. Guess it's going to sit on my shelf and gather dust, since I won't curse anyone else with the problems I'm having.
I'd advise against picking up this mask. The lense issue just makes the purchase not worth it in the long run.
3 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, September 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm PST