12 oz. Java Tank
Java X-Type Goggles
A better barrel and maybe a drop forward
looks niceshoots wellnot hard to aim withand feels comfortable
barrel isnt the best
i like this gun not just cause of looks,but its works very well.i used it and i shot very well with it.the barrel isnt the best but worked good enough for me.its comfortable to hold and isnt that hard to aim with,i do recommend you if you get in to upgrading your gun to get a better barrel and if wanted a drop forward.
it worked well for me and it should work well with you.its a kingman and you'll love it,i recommend it.I give it a 10 due to how good it is.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, January 5th, 2004 at 2:19 pm PST
exp chamber, better barrel, new screws, double trigger
pretty light, shoots well
screws come loss often, stock barrel sucks, cheap handle
It's a perfect gun for new players, but it's a peice. Not worth the money. If you want a spider get an e-99. I would scrap this gun right now if I had another back up gun. Balls clogg in gun. Handle is part plastic. Screws rusted! Get new screws, these suck.
Overall good gun for new people. Can upgrade it, I saw no point in it and bought a Mars Evo. Buy it if you want to dish out $200 for nothing.
LOUD and a gashog (unless LowPressure), difficult to aim at first.
I love my Spyder, always have. I can't remember the last time I've broken a ball in it, its only happened once or twice. The sight-rail would be a nice way to aim the marker if the 45* elbow wasn't in the way, but that's always something you can easily adjust to. This gun is so easy to improve since they left so many areas open for improvement, yet it works wonderfully right out of the box. VERY easy to fieldstrip and clean (you can completely tear down the marker in under 60seconds using the proper tools). Uses very few parts, so it's simple to maintain...Unlike an automag or something along those lines.
If you're looking for an excellent marker for a beginner, or even a backup gun, look no further--this marker is perfect for either, right out of the box. The only reason I went Low Pressure with my marker is because I think it looks badass and I wanted to learn more about my marker 1st-hand (besides, I have all the tools I need to mod the marker myself).
Stock it's better then anything I have shot so far. (Stock that is)
Needs bigger barrel..
I would prob have to say you will end up needing a 14in barrel.. Other then that it's good for a noob or a mid level player.. You can upgrade till you can use it in pro but if your pro you would prob get the best of everything..
I say get this gun over the Tippman.. It's the S*IT.. :-P
Its a good gun, its not expensive, and it looks cool! very accurate. Not as accurate as the Electra and Shutter but still its very good! I used this to play my friend in a one on one, he has a PMI Pro, and i had my friend's TL, and i had him pnned down until my other friend with a Shutter and an AA barrel on it jumped in and helped him out i was doing pretty well but i got taken out pretty bad This gun was very good though!
Buy it, its cheap, 3 of my friends have TL's and they love em
nice marker for beginners
its a kingman
the paint around the area where the safety switch seems to corrode after a while
ive had this gun ever since i started playing paintball. i bought a spyder flash but that got stolen so i feel back on this gun. its still a great gun and with an electronic trigger and a new barrel, it can keep up with the higher end guns on the field.
i would recommend this gun to anyone new to paintball. its very accurate with the stock barrel and its very easy to take apart to clean.
The accuracy is better than a tippman out of the box, so with this it is easier to place more than one ball in the same target.
Spyder TL -=STOCK=-
Barrel and an ANTI-SYPHON in the CO2 tank. These are actually the upgrades needed for ANY gun.
Ability to place many shots into a target without strays winging off.
it WILL chop a ball on you if you really start laying it down.
I beleive this is one of the best guns to get if you are playing woods ball or if you are a scenario player. If not as you primary gun, as a backup. The accuracy is absurdly good right out of the box. If you have to fire fast and furious then i hope you brought your sqeegee because your going to chop a ball for sure.
In the end i'm sure many people would be happy with this gun for its accuracy, the only upgrades really needed would be a better after market barrel and anti-siphon installed in the CO2 tank, Because you do blow snow with this gun. And not because its dialed up, its just the way its made, BUT an anti-siphon is supposed to fix this, and its cheap!
well this is the second paintball gun i have owned its held up pretty good for the age but the only thing i don't like is it just recently wouldn't cycle if there wasn't any paint in it. but tother than that its a good gun. they don't make them any more so its kind of hard to buy them
pretty good gun. i would reccomend buying one if you need a gun and you have come across one
9 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, May 14th, 2003 at 3:01 pm PST
Cheap, fairly reliable, durable, easy to maintain, good beginners gun, did I say cheap?
Bad stock barrel of course. Bolt is junk.
I owned this gun 3 years ago, as my first gun. It was very good at the time, and really helped me take out any noobs on the field. I went out with my friends fraternity, and they were all using stock 98c's and I could outshoot them all. So if anything, buy this gun because you'll always be able to take out the "rents" with it. It also has a pretty good ROF, which is why I'd suggest an agitated hopper, because I was always outshooting my VL200 and chopping balls. With a upgraded barrel, this thing could really be a great gun on the field for very cheap these days. I bought mine used for $50 three years ago, so I'm sure there are great deals to be found with this gun. I took a break from the game for a while, but I just got an Electra, which with a few upgrades I'm hoping it will give me even more fun than I got with my TL.
If you can find it cheap, buy it as a backup or a marker for one of your non-paintballing friends to use.
Funny thing is that it rivals the speed of my A-5/RT and I pumped out around 11bps with it and most people cannot shoot past 7-8, maybe 10-11 bursts at the max or fanning.
A-5, 14" Bigshot, RT, Intruder X-Chamber, Adco Red Dot Sight (soon to be a BSA sight)
Spyder TL, 15" ASA, Black Magic Regulator, Tornado Valve, Madman Spring Kiy, AKA Lightning Bolt
Tippmann Procarbine, VA, 10" Dye Aluminum, Polsished/Ported stock barrel, PB X-Core, Air Tipps hammer, BSA Laser sight, lightened tirgger spring
Stock 2k2 Angel LCD
Stock Black Magic Cocker
I converted mine to LP operation and kept the stock barrel due to few portings and it was good enough so, lp upgrades really.
Fairly fast, few ball breaks in the barrel (but I match paint and use good quality paint), nothing really. Hmm...I liked the feel, was a bit longer than some of my guns and it was really a speedball gun but will work fine for woods play too. I prefer a 15* ASA to get in tight, although these can be purchased. The gun was point and shoot and with some practice, you should have no difficaulties at all.
Nothing much to complain about although you will need a revvy to keep up with this gun.
To address problems below...a pawn shop. The kid bought a gun from a pawnshop for $40.00 and expects it to work perfectly? Sorry, but we live in the real world boy, not in Never-Never-Land with Peter Pan; you get what you pay for, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less.
Broken balls is because of a poor paint to barrel match or poor paint. The stock barrel isn't that bad, it's just a bit on the loud side; you should try the 98 stock barrel if you want poor preformance.
If you buy this gun, you get what you pay for, nothing less, you might even get a bit more because of the speed. I haven't had any problems with the gun aside from normal maintanence which isn't hard (check the gun and oil it) although for the more challenged amongsts us (pawnshop kid), it may prove a difficault task.