A little loud, miscellaneous problems (see full review)
I've had this gun a year and every single time I play, something goes wrong. The first time I played with it, the air gauge began leaking CO2. That's annoying, and meant I had to put the gun away for the day and rent a Tippman Carbine. The next time I play, the TRIGGER FALLS OFF. I kid you not. Two of the pins that hold the trigger in fall off right as I'm playing speed ball. I managed to a little work and keep the trigger intact, and to make a long story short, the trigger ended up getting completely stuck every time I shot (this started happening the third time I played), which rendered the gun next to useless. So it looks like I'll be ordering a new trigger.
Still, when the gun actually works, it performs awesome---I really love it. No ball chops, unlike my brass eagle, which was a nightmare. The double trigger is nice but the pull is a little long, which can be modified. The stock barrel is probably the best stock barrel I've seen. Performance wise, it gets a 10/10, but because of the malfunctions, it gets a 7/10... sorry PMI, but I expect higher quality.
I got it at a good price. I would recommend it, assuming that not everyone has the ridiculous problems I've faced.
7 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, August 5th, 2004 at 4:03 pm PST
I use the PMI Piranha Pro TS G3 with a 12 oz co2 and stock barrel
New Barrel would help but the stock barrel is good enough for me
Never chops, quiet, accurate even with stock barrel, easy trigger, and looks nice
Drop feed infront of sight rail.
This is my favorite gun. I've used spyders, tippmans, zaps, and other similar guns....i think this one by far is the best. I've never got as many headshots with any other gun as i have with this one and i've only used this gun a few times. Even though its not a fully automatic, it seems like it is because the trigger is so light and even when firing as fast as i can, every paintball goes in the same spot as the last one. As soon as i saw this gun, i fell in love with it...and when i first used it, i never wanted a different one. I had one problem with this gun that just happened recently. I was at my friends house and after we finished playing paintball i left my gun outside with the co2 still in. All of the sudden my gun made this whistling sound and a piace from the handle sprung out and i lost it...but that was easy to fix, and it wasn't the guns fault....i shouldn't have left my co2 in the gun for that long.
If you want a great gun thats cheap to buy and still more dependable than any other....buy this one..don't go out and buy a fully automatic just cause everyone thinks they're the best....they waste co2 and paintballs almost instantly...save money and get a better gun like this one.
03 spyder extra
tippman model 98
e99 avant and orginal e99
e99 avant. lapco bigshot macro line shocktech supa fly bolt shocktech shim kit multi metal exp chamber and i think thats about it oh and a empire eltrc hopper
new barrel a electric hopper and possibly ethier a new exp chamber or reg
i have an e99 avant after selling the ts g3.....horrible mistake the reason i sold it is because i was new to the sport and the reg was leaking and i didn't know how to fix it so i sold it for 150 and bought an e99 after the e99 started to fall apart i went back to ebay and bidded on another g3 i plan on switching all parts from my e99 to the gun if it is possible and i will have one sick g3 im also going to see if i can somehow make the electronic trigger frame work on it if so the gun will be AMAZING because it is very low pressure which means no chopping and no wasted gas ......cant wait lol.
the bad....reg mine leaked but it was also nice cuz i got my pressure extremely LOW like 250 or something it was very nice on gas
the good.....crazy accurate with a lapco bigshot
I think if you want a very accurate gun this is for you
I shouldn't really have to say these things but:
-You need HPA. Don't waste time with CO2, you'll just end up wondering why your regulator is leaking.
-Get a barrel kit so you can have good paint-barrel match every game.
-If yours doesn't come with a beaver tail, for the love of God, get one or you'll end up scratching your lens.
-Motorized hopper. Even if you don't shoot fast.
Very consistent airflow.
Easy to clean.
Fairly light weight.
The trigger pull is long.
The marker kicks a bit.
I think this marker is a great first marker for the player who is looking for accurate shooting.
Aside from the splash pattern, the marker looks pretty plain, and it is. You won't be winning any awards for flashiest marker, but it's respectable.
The marker is fairly light. With an HPA tank on the drop-forward, it naturally wants to point up. Because of it's weight, and the fore-grip, it's pretty comfortable to hold.
But the handle may become a bit uncomfortable after a while. There is a square edge on the bottom of the trigger frame plate which may irritate your hand if you have larger hands or hold it a certain way. But wear gloves, and you're fine.
Disassembly is very, very easy and very fast. It's a simple marker, so there's not too much you can mess up. The only exception is the regulator which is not so easy to disassemble. But you won't have to do that very often.
The trigger pull is a bit long, and can become tiresome after long periods of sustained firing. You can adjust the regulator and the spring to get the right balance of ball velocity and air consumption. You'll probably need about 500psi to successfully recock the bolt after firing.
This marker was not built for high rates of fire. Even with a motorized hopper, you're not going to fire very quickly with a mechanical trigger.
The marker is not extremely loud, but it's in the loud category.
The marker performs very well for its price range. The airflow is very consistent, and with the right paint-barrel match, you'll find that the shots are also very consistent.
But if a ball breaks in the stock barrel, it doesn't clean out so well by dry-firing. You'll have to squeegee. I would recommend a barrel kit anyways, but the stock barrel does well with the right paint.
I would HIGHLY recommend this marker for a beginner who is looking for accuracy.
I would NOT recommend this marker for a beginner who is looking for rapid firing.
only gun except tippman 98(friend's) and rental guns
piranha pro ts G3, 32 degrees terminator barrel, VT electric hopper, and 16oz CO2
32 degrees terminator barrel(cheap+good) and electric hopper
shoots fast, looks cool, durable, cheap just dont buy at msrp
- stock barrel sucks(of course)
I really like this gun, it's the only one I have owned, but my friend likes it a lot more than his tip' 98 shoots pretty crooked w/ stock barrel though, and has a good rate of fire
Get the above recommended upgrades and some good paint.
This is a good beginner gun and i recomend it if you want to spend the cash.
i got it at like $190
buy it, just not at msrp, and make sure you get a better barrel cause it will shoot fast and well that way
Possibly Nitro, Electric hopper, Maybe a new barrel.
-sort of light
-not to expensive
-sort of loud
-hard to get a new barrel that matches anodizing
-could be cheaper
This gun is very cool looking for 1. The one I tested was Black, blue and silver. Now if you want a new barrel for it, you may have to look for a while because it may be hard to find a barrel that matches the guns anodizing. Of course the stock barrel works fine. And this gun rarely chops paint! I love this gun. IT IS GREAT!!!!
I would definetly recommend this product to anyone who wants a good gun a a semi-resonable price. GET THIS GUN!!!
PMI Piranha PRO TS G3
WDP Worr Gas 70/4500
Richochet AK Hopper
CP Lighting Drop
None For Beginners - Good Out Of The Box For Rec Ball
Barrel System and hopper are always good.
Good Starter Gun, Nice Paint, Parts Available Everywhere
Regulator Is Not Too Good <Both Of Mine Were Bad>
This gun is a good gun for Rec ball and lower tourney play. Out of the box it works well and looks pretty. I have both the black/green/silver fade and the black/blue/silver fade, both colors are nice. The gun works good on HPA and on CO2, but the regulator is a weak point. Both of my regulators have failed, one leaks from the bottom, the other the pressure creap is almost 200 psi. Other than that the gun works great, It is pretty accurate with the stock barrel and is easily adjustable.
This is a good product. The gun is good out of the box for Rec ball and beginning tourneys. The regulator is a weak spot and is the reason that this gets knocked down from a 9 to an 8.
Brass eagle raptor, spyder a, eradicator, automags, autocockers, shockers
none even compare with my gun exept for the fact that the last 3 are much quieter but they are also much more expensive.
Piranha PRO TS G3 (black,to green, to silver fade) 20 co2 with smart parts on/off valve, evil grip, aci one piece barrel, clear pmi hopper, and all the other upgrades it already comes with
i recomend a new barrel although the stock barrel is surprisingly accurate, it already comes with a buttload of upgrades already on it so, i guess if you can find some other stuff to upgrade with then go for it
accurate, shoots fast without jamming, hardly ever breaks balls
slightly loud, would be better if it was electro, thats it
well when i got my gun, the venturi bolt it came with had a defect on it, on the front of it it had a piece of alluminum that was pointing strait forward and it was pretty sharp, sadly i haven't been able to get them to replace it for me yet. it caused some balls to break i'm sure, but it still hardly ever breaks any balls, when you break a ball it's best to squeegee it immediately because if you don't it will begin to make the balls curve. With the new barrel i got ( ACI one piece barrel) it is very deadly, it's accurate, it shoots fast, it's accurate, it looks cool, and did i say it's accurate.
i reccommend this paintball gun to anybody who wants to be have an accurate gun and performs well, i got mine for $167 but that was a year ago when xpaintball was having a sell. So i'm here to tell you this is the gun to get. i've had mine for a year and haven't even thought about getting a new gun
10 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, February 7th, 2004 at 7:25 pm PST
None it comes with everything it needs
You should definetly used compressed air though on anything
Doesnt break balls, fast firing, accurate, not loud, cool paint job, easy strip, consistant
This gun is probably the best gun I have owned so far. I went through a Talon and 2 Spyders before I got this gun and it converted me from spyders forever. Alot of people call it another spyder clone but this gun is a real piece of art. The stock barrel is not that long but is very accurate. It was at least 6 months before I broke a ball in it and thats becuase I was stupid and was firing way to fast with a regular hopper and I cuaght one halfway in the feed. The trigger pull is smooth and light. The entire body of this gun is made out of metal so you dont have any issues like those you have with plastic body guns. I would rate the performance of this gun much higher than the new 2k3 version of the Pirahna. This is a great gun even for advanced players.
Great price, great gun, doesnt need upgrading, go get it.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, February 18th, 2004 at 3:00 pm PST
-PMI Piranha Pro TS (Added Storm Electronic Trigger, 14" All American barrel, and Ricochet AK Electronic Hopper)
-Sheridan PGP (Added C02 quick change, wrap-around rubber grips, velocity adjuster, quick loader, and new pump handle) held at my side by a cops911.com tactical holster
Barrel comes first. Then when you get better and more comfortable with it, upgrade to an electronic trigger (E-Force, since the Storm makers are out of business now) and get yourself an electric hopper. With those upgrades you're set!
Reliable. Decent speed. Very upgradable. Pretty accurate with a new barrel.
Accuracy only goes so far. Sucks without an electronic trigger and hopper.
When I first bought this gun I liked it. The more upgrades I put on this gun the more I like it! That's what's great about Piranha's. You can put so many upgrades on them and beef them up from mediocre into a pretty good marker. I've never had any major problems with the gun. The anodizing looks awesome too.
For the money, this is a great marker for the beginning and intermediate player. You can start off with a decent gun, and upgrade into a rocking one as your skills improve. It's also made by PMI, one of the oldest and best in the business, so you know you're getting a quality product.