The Blade frame is very well put together, it feels and looks good in the hand. The trigger sits exactly how I like it to with my middle finger resting down the trigger.
The trigger pull length is easy to adjust, simply remove the shoe, and adjust the back stop screw.
There is a tiny amount of slop side to side of the trigger.
No front stop, but is that really important?
It's a little tiring to hold the gun for extended periods since you can't grip the frame with 3 fingers (trigger guard gets in the way).
There's no way you can make the trigger pull under 1mm, at least not at the bottom of the trigger pull! I have my Bullit 3-way set to switch in about 1.5mm and still, the bottom of my pull is about 4mm! With a Shocktech Bomb set at its switch length of 1mm, you'll end up with a 3mm pull at best.
Perhaps if you got the Dye single hinge frame, you'd get a pull shorter than the switch length, but I doubt it (it depends on the pivot point of the trigger in relation to the timing rod).
For shooting ease, one cannot beat the value this frame represents.
I can't comment on the packaging of this frame, since I had it put on my FreeFlow when I ordered it. (I got nothing that came with the frame).
-Smooth sear action and timing rod slot movement make initial setup and timing a breeze.
-Two trigger adjustments allow you to get your trigger pull as small as possible, the only limit is how small the pull can be and still allow your 3-way to cock the block back. (Top of the line 3-way needed to get the pull below a millimeter or two) The trigger really feels a lot like an Angel trigger when it is set up right.
-Excellent design, looks great
-Trigger shoe is very comfortable
-Takes standard sear and springs
-Nearly impossible to find, making it more expensive than it would normally be
-My frame came with a slight cosmetic defect, the anodizing looked a little below average, probably due to the great demand for these frames.
-Comes with several extra parts, but should have included a few extra trigger shoe screws(These are easy to lose and hard to find)
This frame is working very well on my 2001 sto autococker, it is better than the WGP or shocktech hinge triggers. This frame can compete with electronic grip frames, you can use it to make an autococker pull less than a mm. Amazing!
I just sold my old reliable cocker so i can build a brand new one from scratch out of all aftermaket parts. I debated over what kinda trigger i should get, but i decided to go with this one.Great choice. I love this grip. Most grips fit it. Since i got a lot of cash for my old one, i could buy this one and get some otherstuff to put on it. I love this grip. I can get it going so fast its freaky. It was a little heavy of a pull, but i will tell how i fixed it later. I love it it shoots so fast, but i think it needs to come raw so it can be colored. all i could find is black or chrome, just one more thing to pay to have done, but i love it.
Trigger pul is heavy. i fixed it. I go through to much paint. needs more color choices and a bug fat trigger shoe. fixed that too.
the way i fixed the pull is, Take one of those gel pens that have the spring in the bottom so that they are the clicking retactable kind of pen. get the kind that comes in the pack of black red and blue or it wont work. i think they are made by bic or paper mate. o well alll drug stores have them. well anyway, you take out the spring in the bottom of the pen and then take the sear spring out of fram and then streach the spring out so it is the same length as the origgional spring. then put the pen spring back in its place. This should make the sear a little lighter and make a smoother cocking action. also get a roller bearing sear and put it in the sears place. then polish every thing out. this is how you get a sweet trigger pull. also I am not responsable if you F!ck up your gun. so keep the origional spring incase it doesnt work for you. Dont f!ck with your frame if you arent sure what i am talking about or if you are curious or like your pull already. this is how you get the pull for a price of about 50 bucks for the polish, a rag, a new roller bearing sear, and a pack of gel pens.
Sweet must get it. cost to much. Great thing though. I only tryed the trigger job thing cause i wast to happy with the pull, now i have to control my breathing or it might go off if i blow on it. ha. If you own a cocker get it. i like it better cause of the way it feels, but hey not every one is the same. great thing get it. with what i did, it is a trigger job in a box.
My trigger job works for other cocker frames too, but dont mess up your gun and blame it on me cause it isnt my falt, it was your desision t try it. I am rating it an 8 cause i had to change the trigger pull
Comes as a complete pckg, has all the internals included, along w/extra LP hose, hats, and screws. Instruction sheet is very specific on installation, and it took me about 10 minutes to get the gun rocking.
Overall height is about 1/4" higher than a std. 45 frame, so the general 'feel' of the gun remains the same.
Trigger is adjustable in two places, there is minimal slack in both the sear and trigger plate, and the overall fit and function is excellent. Bottom has two sets of holes for an added forward pos'n for your air setup.
Incl. sear spring is TOO HEAVY, but that's just a personal opinion.
Sear shows some machining marks, so it could use some polishing, but the fit is excellent
I've had mine since June, and have no complaints yet
W/out any personal experience w/the WGP or Shocktech frames, I can't really compare it to the others, but I can say this: The eclipse frame is well designed, has very clean lines, is functional, and shoots DAMN fast.
IMO it's the best looking out of the three, and worth the extra $20
This is absolutely the best pivot trigger available for the autococker. The trigger is very smooth, and comes pretty light. If it's too stiff for your liking, it accepts regular trigger springs, unlike the WGP and Shocktech versions. It also accepts standard sears. The frame has two trigger stops, which will allow you the shortest pull out of any of the pivot frames. The trigger shoe is nice and wide and allows your finger to be very comfortable while firing. Maybe it's just me, but some triggers hurt my finger after a while of playing. This one didn't. The frame accepts DYE sticky grips and all other popular grips, which is a huge plus. This is also the best looking pivot frame.
Well, it's nearly impossible to find right now. This is by far the most popular new pivot frame. Unfortunately, it's also the most expensive. Right now used frames are going for more then new ones, just because of the scarcity of them. I was one of the first to get mine, I'm really happy I did.
By far the best frame available for the autococker. Not much else to say. It's worth every penny.